Muslim cleric calls for death of Arafat
        Says Israel should continue offensive until he's executed
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A noted Italian Muslim leader and regional expert has called on Israeli Prime
Minister Ariel Sharon to continue his military campaign against Palestinian
leader Yasser Arafat until the latter is "executed or jailed."

"Sheikh [Prof. Abdul Hadi] Palazzi asks Prime Minister Sharon not to stop the
military operation against the boss of terror, until the day when the Egyptian
criminal Abdel Ra'uf al-Kobdah [aka Yasser Arafat]" is neutralized for good.

Palazzi, who is secretary-general of the Italian Muslim Association, also said
he approved of Sharon's decision to "destroy the centers of the Arafatian
terror in Israel" and accused the Palestinian Authority chairman of inciting
"more than 30 years of barbarian and indiscriminate terror."

Meanwhile, Sheikh Ali Hussen, president of the Italian Muslim Association,
also praised Sharon's actions.

In a joint communiqu published yesterday, Hussen said, "Arafat's wickedness
has reached the extreme limit of what humanity can bear, and ? it is time for
that murderer of Jews, of Christians and of Muslims, for the man who has been
spreading terror on the face of earth, to pay the final bill for his
numberless crimes."

"We ask Prime Minister Sharon not to move a step back ? as already happened
before ? since [setting] that criminal free again could only have the
consequence [of making] Israel appear unsafe and weak," the communiqu said.
"'Arafat' is at least entrapped, and it is essential that the only alternative
is between executing, imprisoning or expelling him. Whichever option is
chosen, the world must be assured that 'Arafat' will not able to shed blood
anymore."

Palazzi has a distinguished history of defending Israel's right to exist. In
an April 17, 2001, interview with WorldNetDaily, Palazzi said that right is
even described in the Koran, the Muslim holy book.

"And thereafter we said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the
Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather
you together in a mingled crowd,'" the Koran says in 17:104, The Night
Journey.

The Italian cleric, who is also the Muslim co-chair of the Islam-Israel
Fellowship of the Root and Branch Association ? which promotes the study and
practice of universal Jewish teachings ? said much of what is known and
written about Jews and so-called Palestinians is mythical.

He says one of the most common misconceptions in the current Arab-Israeli
conflict is that in reality, "there is no such thing as a 'Palestinian.'

"There never was. It is a PR fiction, a Madison Avenue fantasy," he said.

Meanwhile, reports yesterday said the Bush administration was giving Arafat
one last chance to renounce terrorism or risk losing any remaining American
support.

"The message is: This is it. Last chance," said one unnamed U.S. official in
Israel with Secretary of State Colin Powell, according to the Jerusalem Post.
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40 responses total.

Anyone want to start a pool on the number of days before this cleric is
assassinated by his fellow Muslims?

NO takers

I didn't know they made Italian Muslims, but I guess it could happen.  
It does seem that you'd have to be some kind of a masochist to live in 
Italy if you were a Muslim, though.  I mean, at least in the US the 
food in most places is bad enough that sitting down to a table 
of "halal" swill might not seem so bad by comparison.  But I've 
traveled in Italy; if I'd been a Muslim I'd've thrown the Koran on the 
ground and danced on it before I'd walked a single block down Via 
Condotti.  I still say that if the Italians occupied Palestine and 
forced everyone to eat Italian food, the age-old "unresolvable" quarrel 
would sink like a stone.

mmmmm...capicola!!!

mmmm...prosciutto!!!

mmmmm!

Indeed.  The entire mideast would soon be ringing with Fat Clemenza's 
famous "Leave the gun, take the cannoli."

<laughing uncontrollably at #3, and again at #5>

Italian cuisine would probably do it.  I think a few glasses of good
red wine would probably loosen up the principals, and you *know*
that a lot of these folks need something to loosen them up.

Re #0:  I suppose that if a Muslim army comes to Israel to throw
Arafat and the PLO out of Palestine and guarantee the security of
the Jewish state, I could justifiably say that I've seen it all.

That said, I wish this Italian cleric luck.  I get the uneasy feeling
that he's going to need it, like Salman Rushdie.

Idea: Why not initiate a program that literally says, "Leave the gun, 
take the cannoli"?  Open up exchange stations all over the region where 
if you turn in a gun you get a cannoli in return.  There might be some 
resistance from the lunatic fringe at first.  The phrase "as messy as 
an explosion in a cannoli shop" would become commonplace.  But the rest 
of the populace, tormented by centuries of inedible Jewish and Muslim 
food, would soon put a stop to that.  

Actually, cannoli might not be the best choice: bakery sweets are the 
one (and only) thing the Jews excel at.  (Arab desserts are so 
excruciatingly sweet you have to be in preschool to like them.)  Maybe 
a nice plate of pasta with carbonara sauce?  Grilled sausages and 
peppers?  Butter-broiled scallops over risotto?  Spaghetti with lobster 
sauce?  If you were a hate-filled bigot, what dish would *you* turn in 
your weapons for?

Don't think the sausage dish would be appropriate, as both Jews and 
Muslims are not supposed to eat pork or pork products.

In a way, the Italians (Romans) did occupy Palestine but I dont think 
it worked out too well although presumably modern Italians eat better 
so maybe it *should* be tried again. 

10: The carbonara sauce and the sausage both contain pig meat (in the 
form of pancetta in the sauce) which is neither kosher nor halal, and 
the other two dishes both have shellfish which is definitely not kosher 
and might not be halal either, for all I know or care.

11: In a big way, yes.  And what did they ever do for the natives?  I 
mean, apart from roads, sanitation, wine, public safety . . .

Interesting.  In the news last night, they said that the French 
Muslims have begun to attack the French Jews because of "atrocities" 
committed against muslims in Israel.  The French Jews are, of course, 
upset, because they don't think of themselves as Israelis, but as 
French Jews.  They fear a resergance (sp?) of atrocities similar to 
what took place during World War II.

 re #12:

 >> In a way, the Italians (Romans) did occupy Palestine but I dont think 
 >> it worked out too well 
 > 
 > In a big way, yes.  And what did they ever do for the natives?  I 
 > mean, apart from roads, sanitation, wine, public safety . . .

 Well, they also crucified a few trouble-makers, but perhaps you include
 that under the category of "public safety".

absolutely.

re9:  i'd turn in my weapon for a nice carbonara.  definitely!

/cues "Stornelli Amorisi" performed by Claudio Villa

["Public safety" etc. refers to Monty Python's Life of Brian, q.v.]

Re: 13 - there's already been a resurgence.  Compare Kristallnacht with the
ongoing vandalism, beatings, and synagogue arson taking place in France today.

did you see saturday night live where bush tells the suicide bombers they can
trade in their belts for a free cell phone from nokia or motorola and have
unlimited phone sex with horny pro-palestinian "virgins"?.

If only it was that easy to get them to stop murdering people.

<laughing uncontrollably AGAIN at #9... Michael, you're gonna kill me!>

"Compare Kristallnacht..."  Why should we compare attrocities committed by
a small minority to wholesale genocide committed by a government?  What do
we learn from that comparison aside from the fact that the Jewish situation
in Europe as been vastly worse in the past than it is now?

Don't interrupt Mike's hatefest. It isn't polite.

Jan: Perhaps Mike wants to ensure that your statement -- that "the Jewish
situation in Europe [h]as been vastly worse in the past than it is now" --
remains true.

Re 22.  Kristallnacht was committed by a small minority.

Kristallnacht was committed by a small minority of thugs while the government
failed to protect Jews and their property, just as seems to be happening in
Europe right now.  I wasn't comparing the full sweep of the Shoah with what's
happening in Europe, only Kristallnacht, as I said and as Leeron and Larry
pointed out for me.  What's unnerving is to see this pattern of history
repeating, and wondering what's over the next hill on this Jew-hating road
that Europe seems to be on these days.

you better git over thar with yore six-shooter, walter.


that'll fix 'em.

By the way, who the heck is Walter?

dude...rent the Big Lebowski.

Re #27: Yeah, it's time to start arming the Jews there...then if 
something *does* happen, we can test all those anti-gun-control 
theories.

Israel = Jews with Guns.

It's no wonder there's so many people out there who resent the Jewish State.

lock & load, walter!!!

Who's "Walter," again?

Re: #18 & following
Kristallnacht was "committed by a small minority of thugs while the 
government failed to protect Jews and their property" only if you're
a sucker for old Nazi propoganda.  To paraphrase Shirer's _The Rise 
and Fall of the Third Reich_:
Dr. Goebbels issued the instructions, but Reinhard Heydrich (#2 man
at the S.S. under Himmler) was the real organizer.  The detailed 
orders which he teletyped to all state police & Security Service
(S.D.) stations were amid the tons of documents captured after the
war.  He was very efficient, and carefully instructed that Jewish
property should only be burned where there was no danger of the fire
spreading to nearby non-Jewish property; that Jews (especially rich
ones) were to be arrested up to, but NOT beyond, existing prison
capacity, and that concentration camps were to be contacted then to
transfer the prisoners there immediately; that Jewish businesses and
residences could be destroyed but looting was forbidden; etc.

re33:  character from The Big Lebowski 

which is, like, my BIBLE. 

oh my god! we're the same religion!!!!!

you're being VERY "un-dude"!

If I were going to base a religion on a Coan brothers flick, it would be
Fargo, yah?
Coen, yah?

my cat likes to play in water. she is my 'amphibious rodent'.

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