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Grex Agora41 Item 55: Cussing Canoeist Conviction Overturned
Entered by gull on Wed Apr 3 14:18:16 UTC 2002:

http://www.freep.com/news/mich/cuss2_20020402.htm

The Michigan Appeals Court has overturned the conviction of Timothy Boomer
under a law that bans cussing in front of women and children, ruling the law
unconstitutional.  This is the "cussing canoeist" case that got national
attention a while back.  The court unanimously ruled it was concerned about
how jurisdictions would enforce it, saying "allowing prosecution where one
utters 'insulting' language could possibly subject a vast percentage of the
populace to a misdemeanor conviction."

Arenac Assistant Prosecutor Richard Vollbach seems to be bent on appealing
the ruling; he's quoted as saying "I think most people felt this was a good,
valid law."  (I guess he's not big on that whole 'constitutionality' thing
when he feels "most people" agree with him.)

There's also an ACLU press release here:
http://www.aclu.org/news/2002/n040102b.html

28 responses total.



#1 of 28 by aruba on Wed Apr 3 14:44:01 2002:

Phew.


#2 of 28 by happyboy on Wed Apr 3 15:29:01 2002:

i'm really happy for that motherfucking cocksucker!


#3 of 28 by brighn on Wed Apr 3 15:43:13 2002:

Damn straight. Now maybe we can also get rid of that fucking law that says
we can't goddamn refer to Jesus or God in vain. (I kid you not, that's a law
in Michigan.)


#4 of 28 by rcurl on Wed Apr 3 16:30:25 2002:

You know what you've gotta do.


#5 of 28 by brighn on Wed Apr 3 17:06:46 2002:

Which is what? Convince a cop to arrest me?


#6 of 28 by rcurl on Wed Apr 3 17:13:58 2002:

You got it. The  ACLU will support you.


#7 of 28 by brighn on Wed Apr 3 17:22:43 2002:

*ponders following cops around muttering "Jesus Christ God Almighty!"*


#8 of 28 by rcurl on Wed Apr 3 17:29:46 2002:

You may have to remind them what they are supposed to do. Say, like
kicking one in the shin.


#9 of 28 by jmsaul on Wed Apr 3 18:26:47 2002:

That would test the wrong law.


#10 of 28 by brighn on Wed Apr 3 18:49:19 2002:

#8> I could keep printouts of the law handy. I could walk to a police officer,
hand them the code, and say, "Good afternoon, kind officer. Jesus Christ, it's
a nice day, isn't it?"


#11 of 28 by orinoco on Wed Apr 3 19:11:57 2002:

I will gladly donate some money towards brighn's living expenses if he decides
to blaspheme at the police on a full-time basis.  


#12 of 28 by brighn on Wed Apr 3 19:24:58 2002:

Heh. I sense taht #10 would more likely end me up with a trip to the funny
farm.


#13 of 28 by vidar on Wed Apr 3 19:42:11 2002:

resp #7: My personal favorite "blasphemy" is "Jesus H. Motherfucking 
Christ".  Blasphemy is in qoutes since he's not my god I am not taking 
the name of god in vain.


#14 of 28 by jazz on Wed Apr 3 19:46:19 2002:

        Or, in an Arianist Christian context, you're just taking the name of
a particularly good rabbi in vain, which is kosher.  I think it's only "YHVH"
that was supposed to be sacred, and therefore "Jehovah" and "Jah" would be
desecrations, but not "Goddamnit".


#15 of 28 by brighn on Wed Apr 3 20:19:04 2002:

*beans jazz with a stone*


#16 of 28 by jazz on Wed Apr 3 20:55:46 2002:

        Why?  Just because I said "this bread is fit for Jehovah"?


#17 of 28 by brighn on Wed Apr 3 21:51:34 2002:

*beans jazz with a stone*


#18 of 28 by morwen on Wed Apr 3 22:25:23 2002:

A little joke along these lines.

A Quaker and 3 Jews were touring Italy following WWII.  As they drove, 
they chanced on a once beautiful cathedral that had been utterly 
demolished in the bombing.

As one the Jews all exclaimed, "Jesus Christ!"  At the same time, the 
Quaker shouted, "Holy Moses!"


#19 of 28 by other on Thu Apr 4 00:57:43 2002:

Umm... if it was utterly domolished, how could they tell that it was A) 
once beautiful (and thus worth exclaiming over) or B) a cathedral (and 
thus worth exclaiming over)?


#20 of 28 by orinoco on Thu Apr 4 01:15:48 2002:

Divine inspiration.


#21 of 28 by other on Thu Apr 4 03:56:04 2002:

heh.


#22 of 28 by morwen on Thu Apr 4 09:43:10 2002:

Well, maybe not UTTERLY demolished, but how 'bout badly damaged?


#23 of 28 by morwen on Thu Apr 4 09:43:52 2002:

Anyways it was supposed to be funny.

What IS this, anyway, pick on Julie day?


#24 of 28 by other on Thu Apr 4 17:59:46 2002:

I was picking on the joke, dear, not you.


#25 of 28 by morwen on Thu Apr 4 21:06:38 2002:

okay


#26 of 28 by tsty on Sat Apr 6 06:43:40 2002:

this result was unexpectded?   surely yu jest.


#27 of 28 by bhelliom on Thu Apr 11 20:37:19 2002:

That's why we love you John.  :)


#28 of 28 by aaron on Wed Apr 17 04:47:05 2002:

re #26: I'm not sure what you're referencing, TS, but you should note that
        this law was upheld by the federal courts a couple of decades ago.
        So there would be some cause to be surprised by the present state
        court ruling.

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