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Grex Agora41 Item 54: The Gripe Item
Entered by morwen on Tue Apr 2 23:13:56 UTC 2002:

Got frustration?  Got problems that don't fit in the "bummed" item?

This is the place to air them, ladies and gentlemen.

90 responses total.



#1 of 90 by jp2 on Wed Apr 3 01:43:46 2002:

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#2 of 90 by scott on Wed Apr 3 02:26:29 2002:

Jamie, I know you don't like taking your meds, but they *do* keep the
hallucinations away.  


#3 of 90 by jp2 on Wed Apr 3 02:43:57 2002:

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#4 of 90 by other on Wed Apr 3 03:56:50 2002:

Windows95 on a pentium II for a desktop system.  


#5 of 90 by brighn on Wed Apr 3 04:08:55 2002:

Jamie seems to be much more entertaining in his vulgarity today. I mean that
seirously. =}


#6 of 90 by edina on Wed Apr 3 14:18:54 2002:

Then be jealous of me - I'm having dinner with him tonight.


#7 of 90 by scott on Wed Apr 3 14:40:00 2002:

Re 4:  Could be much worse, Eric.  You could be forced to use Win98 or even
WinME.


#8 of 90 by other on Wed Apr 3 17:24:02 2002:

I prefer 98 to 95, generally.  However, on this system, I think 3.1 might be
preferred.  First choice on this system would be Linux, but I don't know if
there's a port of Lotus Notes or IomegaWare for Linux...


#9 of 90 by mdw on Thu Apr 4 02:12:05 2002:

Linux comes with software to talk to iomega drives.  The only confusing
part is sorting through all the ide vs. scsi vs. parallel port
configuration issues.

I don't know for sure about lotus notes, but there's a *chance* there's
a linux version.  IBM owns lotus notes, and they're pretty gung ho on
linux these days, so they may well have made a point of making sure a
linux version exists.


#10 of 90 by scott on Thu Apr 4 03:17:56 2002:

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#11 of 90 by scott on Thu Apr 4 03:18:33 2002:

http://www.winecentric.com/notes5.shtml


#12 of 90 by other on Thu Apr 4 03:55:17 2002:

Cool, thanks!  I don't suspect I'll be able to talk anyone into swapping 
my OS on the work machine (their Notes server runs NT -- I'll bet they 
don't even have anyone who knows *nix), but I'll ask...


#13 of 90 by mdw on Thu Apr 4 17:38:36 2002:

You might also find these of interest:
http://www.notes.net/
http://www.lotus.com/dominolinux
possibly also:
http://www.codeweavers.com/
although the last site wasn't compatible with my browser.


#14 of 90 by rlejeune on Thu Apr 4 20:08:55 2002:

Codeweavers has a great product, you may want to check them out.


#15 of 90 by morwen on Thu Apr 4 21:04:06 2002:

I feel frustrated because I am so pregnant that sex is uncomfortable.


#16 of 90 by russ on Fri Apr 5 05:11:32 2002:

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#17 of 90 by russ on Fri Apr 5 05:12:13 2002:

Re #15:  At least it's temporary.

IAFB of smokers and the lack of decent indoor air-quality laws.


#18 of 90 by happyboy on Fri Apr 5 13:52:24 2002:

you're a pussy.


#19 of 90 by edina on Fri Apr 5 16:06:33 2002:

Hahahahaah!!!


#20 of 90 by tsty on Sat Apr 6 06:50:31 2002:

re #13 .. netscape 4.7 loaded  http://www.codeweavers.com/ just fine.
what browser are you using. (i'm about to change to opera, btw).


#21 of 90 by slynne on Sun Apr 7 17:36:17 2002:

Yeah russ is one of those folks who thinks the market should take care 
of everything until some band plays at a bar someplace and *the market* 
has dictated that the place allow smoking. I am all for indoor air 
quality laws but I dont pretend that the market is perfect either. 




#22 of 90 by jaklumen on Mon Apr 8 03:32:59 2002:

I am sooo sick and tired of hearing folks bash this politican or that 
politican.  When it comes to politics, it never fails to see people 
display such smug, self-righteous, all-knowing behavior.  The specific 
part is that Grexers tend to be on the left or on the right, but 
rarely are many that comment really in the middle.  Most are on the 
left, it seems to me.

I will take a look after I finish posting (I changed my mind), but let 
me ask this question: just how active is the politics conference?  
Politics seems to dominate the content of Agora here, and rarely do I 
see mention that any such item is linked to politics, nor do I see 
requests that such discussion might better be served there.

/rant off


#23 of 90 by jaklumen on Mon Apr 8 03:40:13 2002:

just checked.  Doesn't look terribly active to me.


#24 of 90 by other on Mon Apr 8 12:03:21 2002:

Everything is political when someone has an agenda.


#25 of 90 by gull on Mon Apr 8 14:54:04 2002:

I think people in the middle generally don't feel strongly enough to 
comment, so you tend to hear mostly from people who are heavily on one 
side or the other.


#26 of 90 by morwen on Mon Apr 8 16:14:52 2002:

If you gotta rant, this is the place for it.


#27 of 90 by i on Tue Apr 9 00:17:06 2002:

The politics cf. is up for a major overhaul & much more activity.  Check
back there in a week or two.


#28 of 90 by mooncat on Tue Apr 9 16:19:58 2002:

grrs... My boss is a moron who can't read. Okay, so we're almost out of 
letterhead- I send an e-mail around alerting people of this and gave a 
listing of price per 1,000 sheets and (here's the important bit) listed 
the date of our last order, the amount we ordered and the price.

#1 Return e-mail from boss asks me to let him know when we last 
ordered, how much we ordered and how much it cost. - I cut and pasted 
my initial explanation into that reply.

#2 reply (a day or so later) (co-worker replied to initial e-mail and 
boss replied to that)- again asked me when our last order was, how much 
and how much $$ it was. Again, I answer.

#3 reply (his e-mail goes to his home so he answers from there too) is 
the word 'Fix' that's it, no explanation, no answer to the questions in 
the prior e-mails, just 'Fix' and trust me- in his lingo this does not 
mean 'Fix the problem of a letterhead shortage by buying more' This 
could be anything from a typo (for which I'm psychically supposed to 
know what word he meant to type) to something completely non-related to 
letterhead (like fixing an e-mail address in his computer's address 
book). I ask for further clarification in my reply (for the third time 
copying my order date, amount, $$ at the bottom).

#4 reply from him- demands that I get on the ball and tell him how much 
we last ordered and how much we paid and when. 

Now if you were paying attention- I already told him FOUR times! 
<stomps off, muttering something about how it's a really good thing the 
boss is out of town today and tomorrow>


#29 of 90 by happyboy on Tue Apr 9 16:37:55 2002:

it's really sad to have to have a job.

*sulk*

                        *pout*


#30 of 90 by jp2 on Tue Apr 9 16:42:10 2002:

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#31 of 90 by jazz on Tue Apr 9 16:49:07 2002:

        I had a mad scientist - er, certified genius - of a boss who wrote
e-mails like that.  She really was brilliant, but she had so many
responsibilities, and handled all of them personally, that it was difficult
to get a coherent answer from her.  By and large we did what we thought was
right and justifiable by her e-mail, and if we got in trouble for it, we
always had something to point the finger back at.


#32 of 90 by mooncat on Tue Apr 9 19:46:17 2002:

My boss is the king of not taking responsibility for things that ARE 
his mistakes. Somehow they're always my fault. I'm still working on 
that one (like yesterday when co-worker asked 'Don't you have to write 
a fax to Mr. X?' and his very clear answer was 'No, that's been taken 
care of.' Later he was screaming about how I didn't bring it up, I 
mentioned the conversation with co-worker, co-worker backed me up, and 
he said he obviously meant that he had taken care of Mr. Y and that I 
should have known that even though he said Mr. X was taken care of that 
we still had to fax him. This job would be so much better if my psychic 
powers weren't constantly on the fritz...)


#33 of 90 by aruba on Tue Apr 9 21:18:47 2002:

Ack.  He sounds like a particularly awful person to work for.


#34 of 90 by lynne on Tue Apr 9 21:43:12 2002:

How sad.  I'm not happy or bummed enough to post in the appropriate items, 
and I'm also not upset enough to rant.  This Zoloft is pretty effective stuff.


#35 of 90 by remmers on Tue Apr 9 22:53:18 2002:

<remmers considers entering a "I'm feeling bland" item>


#36 of 90 by orinoco on Wed Apr 10 00:48:39 2002:

With lots of blank responses.  Maybe you could pre-enter them, so we wouldn't
have to bother.  That way, too, you could make extra sure that they all really
do look the same.


#37 of 90 by bru on Wed Apr 10 02:48:49 2002:

sounds like my boss.


#38 of 90 by oval on Wed Apr 10 05:32:24 2002:


<gripe>



#39 of 90 by morwen on Wed Apr 10 06:31:13 2002:

Suggestion for mooncat.  Since your boss does not seem to be 
responding well to your e-mail, you might consider putting together 
your original e-mail on a piece of paper and submitting it to his 
desk.  If you can, get someone to stamp it so that you have a witness 
that he not only received it, but as to what the content was and then 
photocopy it so that you have proof.  If he then replies in the same 
vein as he has earlier, you can tell him that he already has that 
information on his desk and can give him your copy as proof.

Hope this helps.


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