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Grex Agora41 Item 19: Wife of Gun Control poster boy breaks anti-gun laws and buys a sniper rifle?
Entered by bdh3 on Sat Mar 23 05:37:17 UTC 2002:

http://www.miami.com/mld/miami/news/politics/2909641.htm

If I am the main squeeze of a 'banger and buy him '9' is that ok?

Shades of Carle Rowe...

33 responses total.



#1 of 33 by bru on Sat Mar 23 06:00:44 2002:

once again it shows that the laws are made to restrict the general public,
not meant to encroach on the rights of the rich and famous.


#2 of 33 by tsty on Sat Mar 23 06:21:44 2002:

gee, haven't heard much from Rowe lately ..... hmmmm
  
perhaps brady's kid is on a rifle team somewhere.


#3 of 33 by mcnally on Sat Mar 23 23:17:15 2002:

  Who's Carle Rowe?


#4 of 33 by other on Sun Mar 24 01:45:21 2002:

You know, just because someone favors restrictive handgun laws, it does 
not mean that they are entirely opposed to firearms.  They are still a 
subject of Olympic competition...  

Of course, I don't pretend to know what Sarah Brady thinks, feels or 
believes.


#5 of 33 by polygon on Sun Mar 24 02:40:15 2002:

Re 3.  Carl T. Rowan was a syndicated columnist who got into trouble
for shooting an intruder in his backyard.  No surprise that we haven't
heard from him in a while, since he's dead.


#6 of 33 by mcnally on Sun Mar 24 04:34:02 2002:

  Ahh..  I remember Carl Rowan but didn't manage the translation from
  tsty-speak..


#7 of 33 by bdh3 on Sun Mar 24 05:11:56 2002:

Dude was big anti-gun writer for the paper.  Shot an intruder in his
back yard with an illegal handgun or something like that.  


#8 of 33 by jazz on Sun Mar 24 14:32:41 2002:

        Kinda funny how that works.


#9 of 33 by fitz on Sun Mar 24 16:08:14 2002:

The gun Rowan had was unregistered.  The intruder was a trespasser who was
using Rowan's pool in the middle of the night.  Rowan had the gun just to
prevent the trespasser from hitting him, but the intruder continued to advance
on Rowan even after being warned that Rowen was armed.


#10 of 33 by bdh3 on Sun Mar 24 19:21:43 2002:

Gosh, handguns *are* pretty handy for self defense.....too bad they
were outlawed where Rowan lived.


#11 of 33 by oval on Sun Mar 24 22:54:53 2002:

nighttime swimmers are very dangerous.


#12 of 33 by other on Sun Mar 24 23:59:53 2002:

I use to skinnydip in a municipal pool at night with friends.


#13 of 33 by oval on Mon Mar 25 01:17:53 2002:

heh yea we used to do that too..


#14 of 33 by gelinas on Mon Mar 25 02:48:10 2002:

Especially if you are sixty-something and they are twenty-something.


#15 of 33 by danr on Mon Mar 25 05:21:15 2002:

Rowan probably could have saved himself an awful lot of trouble if he'd 
just called the police. And most gun-toting hombres would do well to 
take that advice as well.


#16 of 33 by jazz on Mon Mar 25 13:35:37 2002:

        It's awfully hard to argue "what if", though, in either case.

        What does seem to save everyone a great deal of trouble is a strong
cradle to grave welfare program.  Are we willing to do that? 


#17 of 33 by gull on Mon Mar 25 15:43:56 2002:

Re #15: Yeah, that's what I don't get.  If there was some weirdo trespassing
in your pool, why wouldn't you just lock the doors to the house and call the
police?

I'd suggest that that's exactly what he would have done, if he didn't have a
handgun making him feel like some kind of macho hero.


#18 of 33 by tsty on Mon Mar 25 17:48:55 2002:

re #5 - thankxx polygon - is he in your graveyard yet?
re #6 - yeh, somtimes the partials are difficuot to assemble, sorry
re #7 - that's how the story played out ... practice what i preach, not
        what i really do.
  
back to the topic, uhhhh, identifying a 30.06 as a 'sniper rifle' is
just plain exaggeration - or, more likely, 'writers ignorance.'  perhaps
the additino of a scope triggered (heh-heh) the writer's fingers too much.
  


#19 of 33 by gull on Mon Mar 25 19:50:21 2002:

Ya know, one car dearship near Houghton used to run a deal where if you 
bought a new pickup truck, you were entered into a drawing to win a 
30.06.  At the time I thought it was the most redneck-targeted bit of 
advertising I'd ever heard.


#20 of 33 by scott on Mon Mar 25 19:57:43 2002:

Question:  will this incident be counted as a "defensive gun use" next time
somebody starts ranting about guns?


#21 of 33 by gull on Mon Mar 25 21:07:31 2002:

Probably.


#22 of 33 by jazz on Tue Mar 26 00:34:30 2002:

        Thirty-oughts *were* used as sniper rifles in World War Two. 
Labelling one so, though, is clearly spin doctoring, as would be saying a
Ford Ranger was a notorious dead body hauling vehicle.


#23 of 33 by bdh3 on Tue Mar 26 02:23:57 2002:

Sorta like calling a semi-automatic single shot rifle like an SKS-74 an
'automatic assault rifle'?


#24 of 33 by russ on Tue Mar 26 03:16:32 2002:

I just went to the link today, and it appears to be broken;
there were all the frames and things but no article text.


#25 of 33 by gelinas on Tue Mar 26 03:25:49 2002:

(Was Mr. Rowan a politician?  I thought he was just a speech-writer and
author.)


#26 of 33 by bdh3 on Tue Mar 26 05:40:50 2002:

re#24:  It now contains a retraction of the story, not that Sarah didn't
buy the sniper rifle for her son, but that it was potentially illegal
for her to do so.  So according to the retraction the delaware gun law
says its ok for the 'strawman' purchase - 'banger squeeze to buy the
nine so long as the 'banger tells her its ok for him to have it...
like whats the point of the law then huh?


#27 of 33 by polygon on Tue Mar 26 09:09:00 2002:

Re 18,25.  Yes, I have Mr. Rowan listed, since he was U.S. Ambassador
to Finland in 1963-64.  See
http://politicalgraveyard.com/bio/rothacker-rowden.html

The site lists "politicians, judges, and diplomats," living and dead,
from the 1770s to the present.  Diplomats (ambassadors and other U.S.
chiefs of mission) are included because many of them are politicians,
and in former times, all of them were politicians.


#28 of 33 by jazz on Tue Mar 26 13:37:42 2002:

        No.  A semi-automatic and automatic weapon, as you well know, are two
completely different things.  A semi-automatic weapon does not become an
automatic weapon when it's used for a particular purpose;  a 30-06 becomes
a sniper rifle when it is used to shoot a human being from a distance.  So
one is outright lying, and the other simply misrepresentation.


#29 of 33 by gelinas on Tue Mar 26 14:57:24 2002:

Hadn't known that he had been an Ambassador.  Thanks, Larry.  (I'm learning
a lot from you lately. :)


#30 of 33 by bru on Tue Mar 26 16:54:45 2002:

A sniper rifle is usually an accurized, bolt action weapon with a scope
mounted on it and ad justed to the shoulder of the user.  It can be a .30-06,
or a .223, or a .50 cal as long as it is optomized for that intended use.


#31 of 33 by tsty on Wed Mar 27 23:06:57 2002:

what bru said .. and the particularity is in two areas, 1) specially
manufactured adn calibrated (like your taurus ain't ready for NASCAR, ok?)
adn 2) custom fitted to the individual in all respects (dont' try out
somone else's space suit, right!).
  
'sniper rifle, my foot! 


#32 of 33 by mvpel on Sun Mar 31 21:13:11 2002:

"They'll never ban your hunting rifle...
   ... they'll call it a 'sniper gun' first."



#33 of 33 by tsty on Sat Apr 6 07:03:55 2002:

lefties lost interest here  -  look at chicago's local cops!

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