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Grex Agora41 Item 148: Geek Star Trek Question
Entered by jp2 on Thu May 2 22:47:21 UTC 2002:

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#1 of 33 by jmsaul on Thu May 2 23:05:41 2002:

Amok Time.
The Trouble WIth Tribbles.

Um...


#2 of 33 by tpryan on Thu May 2 23:06:15 2002:

        How about every episode where Kirk gets the snot beat out of
him, but he ends up prevailing anyway?  My brother-in-law likes the
part about Kirk getting the snot beat out of him.


#3 of 33 by jp2 on Thu May 2 23:07:26 2002:

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#4 of 33 by jazz on Thu May 2 23:18:25 2002:

        It comes with the chair.

        Of course Picard, Janeway, and Sisko never scored like that.  Kirk got
mad play.  But that was the original enterprise.


#5 of 33 by jp2 on Thu May 2 23:35:22 2002:

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#6 of 33 by gull on Fri May 3 00:14:10 2002:

Yeah, chicks dig a guy who walks like he's trying to break down a door
with his forehead.


#7 of 33 by mcnally on Fri May 3 01:32:59 2002:

  If true, that would certainly explain how natural selection in the 
  Star Trek universe has favored so many humanoid species with
  forehead-specific mutations..


#8 of 33 by jp2 on Fri May 3 01:53:07 2002:

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#9 of 33 by brighn on Fri May 3 04:12:14 2002:

#3> Counting both of those is double-dipping.


#10 of 33 by scott on Fri May 3 13:34:19 2002:

Sort of.  Kirk didn't appear in "The Cage".  Captain Pike didn't quite get
it on either, though.

re 8:
"The Bat'lelth (or Batleth, or Bat'leth) is the symbol of Klingon honor and
strength. It is probably the most widely recognized Klingon weapon in
existence, and is definitely the most sought-after. It derives its name from
the klingon words for Honor (letlh) and sword (bat'), thus making it the Sword
of Honor. 

 The legends of Kahless the Unforgettable say that the bat'letlh was created
when he took a lock of his hair and dipped it first into the volcano at
Kri'stak, next into the fiery river of Lusore, and then twisted it into a
sword which he used to kill Molor the tyrant."

Why do all the Klingon fansite pages use that awful dark green on black color
scheme?  Maybe they think Klingons will only read something if there's a
chance of getting eyestrain and a nice headache?


#11 of 33 by jazz on Fri May 3 15:39:41 2002:

        It's the way they've always done the display panels on Klingon ships,
even when they were slightly confused about which models to use for Klingon
ships and which for Romulan, thereby leading to an orgy of Trekkie explanation
writing.


#12 of 33 by bdh3 on Sat May 4 07:41:28 2002:

You uns take this stuff far too seriously.


#13 of 33 by tpryan on Sat May 4 20:45:10 2002:

        Beware the Klingon webmaster.  "You have insulted my code,
prepare to die!".


#14 of 33 by senna on Sun May 5 04:58:11 2002:

They're quoting people who take it too seriously.


#15 of 33 by jaklumen on Mon May 6 09:20:45 2002:

How about every episode in which Kirk gets the snot beat out of him, 
and he doesn't wind up tearing his shirt, my wife asks.


#16 of 33 by scott on Mon May 6 13:22:01 2002:

How about every episode in which Kirk puts his hands together in one big fist
and brings it down on somebody's head?  ;)


#17 of 33 by mcnally on Tue May 7 03:40:40 2002:

  Ahhh..  classic kirk-fu..


#18 of 33 by jazz on Tue May 7 18:30:53 2002:

        Kirk was a registered black belt in the substyle of Eight Drunken
Irishmen kung-fu.


#19 of 33 by oval on Tue May 7 19:31:29 2002:

LOL!



#20 of 33 by other on Wed May 8 03:21:10 2002:

Umm...  that's "Eight Drunken JEWISH Irishmen..."


#21 of 33 by jp2 on Sat May 18 21:59:05 2002:

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#22 of 33 by senna on Sat May 18 23:19:42 2002:

Let's see:  Spock once, movies II and III.  Scott "died" a couple of 
months after 6, but was discovered in a pattern buffer in "Relics" 
(TNG.) In a similar vein, Kirk "died" when the ribbon blew out part of 
the Enterprise B's engineering hull at the main deflector, but Picard 
wound up fishing him out of the Nexus to save a few hundred thousand 
people on some planet nobody's heard of.  Picard "died" and got a 
chance to fix a previous judgement error, courtesy of Q, 
in "Tapestry."  Dax obviously died and came back, sans Jadzia.  Didn't 
Worf briefly die on the operating table during his spinal replacement 
in season five?  I don't remember that episode too clearly.  Data's 
mechanical nature makes him prone to various shutdowns, including a 
break of 500 years where his head was removed, sat in state in a bay 
area cave, and was recovered and placed back on his headless body 
("Time's Arrow").  Yar came back to life once or twice thanks to 
various rifts in the space-time continuum.

My memories of DS9 and particularly Voyager (which put me to sleep) are 
vague, so I can't mention as much about that.  Not too clear on who's 
been dead in the original series, either.  I'm not THAT much of a geek.


#23 of 33 by aruba on Sun May 19 00:55:56 2002:

Harry Kim definitely died once, and went to the planet where dead people
go.  Geordi and Ro thought they had died when transporting over from a
Romulan ship, but it turned out they were just phased.  Yar died in Code
of Honor, only to be resurrected a few minutes later.  Then she died again
in Skin of Evil, only to be brought back in Yesterday's Enterprise.  And
Riker died near the end of Yesterday's Enterprise, but then history was
changed and he was OK again.

McCoy died in Shore Leave, but he was better at the end of the episode. 
In the episode where Worf keeps changing universes, we find that in
several, Captain Picard died in the Borg incident, but he's OK at the end. 
Oh, and everyone thought Picard had died in the two-parter with the
ancient Vulcan artifact, but it turned out he was OK. 

Here's another one: in how many episodes do Star Trek characters become
parents, at least for a short time?


#24 of 33 by senna on Sun May 19 01:32:36 2002:

I didn't think the Worf incidents were worth mentioning, because 
everybody spends time dying here and there.  I completely forgot about 
how many times Harry Kim died just in the season or two that I watched 
Voyager, and that was one of the major things that turned me off of 
that program.  I didn't want to include "thought dead" incidents, 
because there are a lot of those.

Parents, hell, zillions of times.  I think a more appropriate question 
would be "who *isn't* a parent at one point or another?"  TNG crew: 
Geordi might not have been out of the major characters, but that's it.  

Why am I participating in this discussion?  To prove that I'm both a 
sports AND a sci-fi geek?  Except I'm not, really...


#25 of 33 by void on Sun May 19 15:28:31 2002:

   The story has been going around that "Enterprise" will be cancelled.
Does anyone know what Paramount's plans are?  I only ever saw the first
episode, knowing as I do that most Trekkish series need at least two
seasons to work out the worst kinks (though "Voyager" never did hold
my attention).


#26 of 33 by jp2 on Sun May 19 16:36:36 2002:

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#27 of 33 by tpryan on Sun May 19 19:46:52 2002:

        Picard's Enterprise blew up (real good) and all died in the
episode where they where in a recurring time-loop and then finally
survived to meet up with Fraiser as Captain of another time ship.


#28 of 33 by senna on Sun May 19 21:54:58 2002:

Damn, that's right, I completely forgot about the causality loop.  


#29 of 33 by gull on Mon May 20 01:29:28 2002:

Picard and Kirk are both friggin' "Chinese aces"...they blow up more of their
own side's ships than they do the enemy's.


#30 of 33 by senna on Mon May 20 05:13:43 2002:

I think #29's presumption about Picard depends mostly on whether or not 
you count his actions as Locutus against him or not.


#31 of 33 by tpryan on Mon May 20 12:49:04 2002:

        And things like Voyager's "Year of Hell" where all ended up dying
while blowing up Voyager (real good); leaving us audience with two hours
more that we had to view than the crew.  As audience, I think we ended
seeing at least 7 more hours of adventure that the Voyager crew did.


#32 of 33 by bruin on Mon May 20 13:40:00 2002:

BTW, did anybody catch the piece on "Star Trek" on NPR's "Morning 
Edition" this morning (Monday, 5/20/02)?


#33 of 33 by gelinas on Tue May 21 02:53:30 2002:

I caught at least part of it.

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