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marcvh
response 98 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 15:51 UTC 2006

"Not putting myself in the position to need what that particular 
pharmacist refuses to provide"?  So I guess that before you hang a
picture, you call the local pharmacy to make sure they don't have any
moral objections to dispensing the pain medications and antibiotics you
could conceivably need if a mishap should occur?
edina
response 99 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 16:13 UTC 2006

There goes Richard again, putting words in peoples' mouths, trolling.

Well Richard, if you don't feel women should have a gynecological exam before
being prescribed BCP, you MUST be in favor of them getting ovarian/cervical
cancer, being untreated for possible STDs that could possibly affect future
fertility, and being left in the dark about the possibility of being educated
about their own body.  
jep
response 100 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 17:00 UTC 2006

re resp:98: If you'll point out a pharmacy which doesn't fill 
prescriptions for such things, let me know about it and I'll address 
that issue.
marcvh
response 101 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 17:19 UTC 2006

So, in other words, you just assume that you can get it.  The same way
that a woman who has sex assumes that, if the condom bursts, she will
be able to get emergency contraception.  Sounds fine to me.
klg
response 102 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 17:19 UTC 2006

(A pharmacist does not necessarily need a doctoral degree.  In the 
recent past, a relative (on my wife's side) who died had been a 
pharmacist.  He got his training in high school.)
edina
response 103 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 17:29 UTC 2006

I think the standards have changed a bit.
richard
response 104 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 17:30 UTC 2006

re  #99 I never said women shouldn't have gynecological exams...sheesh
edina
response 105 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 17:33 UTC 2006

Well I never said that all OTC meds should need a prescription.  See?  isnt'
it fun to have words put in your mouth?

You have been missing my point - BCP come with those exams - women need those
exams.  Making them OTC means crucial diagnostic tests will drop off...it's
not perfect, but it's better than the alternative.
mary
response 106 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 18:07 UTC 2006

Although there are risks associated with using birth control pills and 
patches, I'd still rather see them sold OTC.  The population using them 
tends to be young and healthy and there are risks associated with unwanted 
pregnancy.  I'd err on the side of giving women full control of their 
reproductive rights by supplyihg them with clear and accurate information 
and easy access to birth control medications.  I'd start by assuming they 
are able to make good decisions regarding their own health.

rcurl
response 107 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 19:28 UTC 2006

Re #102: the PharmBS has been phased out and replaced by the PharmD 
("doctorate").

Re #97: jep writes "A pharmacist is a medical professional with a doctor's 
degree."

Don't conclude, however, that a pharmacy "doctor's degree" bears any 
equivalence to a medical doctor's degree. You can get a Doctor of Pharmacy 
degree online.

http://www.worldwidelearn.com/university-florida/pharmacy-doctorate-degree.
htm

Caveat emptor.
tod
response 108 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 19:40 UTC 2006

Trust Your Mechanic
or in this case pharmacist

klg
response 109 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 20:15 UTC 2006

Curl may be correct.  However, those pharmacists who were already 
licensed weren't re-degreed.
richard
response 110 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 22:14 UTC 2006

we'll just keep having more and more people going to mexico buy drugs otc and
cheaper there
keesan
response 111 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 22:37 UTC 2006

If someone has to come up with the money for a gynecological exam before being
allowed to spend $5 on birth control pills, they are more likely to not get
them.  We don't need OTC pills as much as free exams and prescriptions. 
tod
response 112 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 22:38 UTC 2006

Casualties of christian capitalism...
happyboy
response 113 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 01:40 UTC 2006

"jesus tolt me that he don't want me tew sell yew no 
 pussypills."

 james "handmaid's tale" dobson
tod
response 114 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 05:31 UTC 2006

Judge Andrew Napolitano was subbing for Bill O'Reilly today on Fox radio.
He tore the whole Gitmo thing to shreds.  It ruled.
O'Reilly prolly pissed himself.
rcurl
response 115 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 07:32 UTC 2006

Re #109: quite correct, although getting re-degreed online was suggested at
the website I cited. 
gull
response 116 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 03:28 UTC 2006

Re resp:94: I think that people should choose occupations that don't
raise conflicts with their personal beliefs. If I didn't believe in
gambling I wouldn't expect the government to step in and force people to
accept me as a casino employee. Why should the government force people
to accept pharmacists who don't want to dispense medication?
tod
response 117 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 06:56 UTC 2006

Amish greeter at Best Buy
jep
response 118 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 13:48 UTC 2006

re resp:116: The government is forcing people to accept pharmacists?  
Is this "forcible acceptance" another phrase for "allowing them to have 
a license"?
rcurl
response 119 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 20:47 UTC 2006

Pharmacists should be expected to provide any drug that has been cleared 
by the FDA for sale with a legal prescription. Their only concern should 
be possible drug interactions, as already determined, in which case they 
should only ask for a second opinion from a doctor. Pharamacits are not 
licensed to be keepers of personal moralities. They can do that on their 
own time.
nharmon
response 120 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 21:09 UTC 2006

IMHO, Pharmacists should apply their morality objectively. If they 
suspect a person is abusing a drug (a la Rush Limbaugh), they should be 
allowed to deny filling the script.
slynne
response 121 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 21:39 UTC 2006

I think that we should look at the problem that we are actually trying 
to solve and then think about the consequences of any actions. I do not 
think it is a good idea to require every pharmacy in the world to stock 
every drug that has been approved for sale by the FDA. There are a lot 
of expensive drugs out there and some of those have very little demand. 
Requiring such could discourage pharmacies from opening meaning fewer 
of them. Also the costs of stocking all those drugs would be passed on 
to consumers. Not really what was intended. 
 
A better law would require pharmacies to stock particular drugs such as 
Plan B or oral contraceptives or whatever else people think isnt 
available because of moral objections of pharmacists. 
rcurl
response 122 of 526: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 23:32 UTC 2006

Pharmacies do not have to *stock* any drugs. They can just be a window through
which you order prescriptions and the pharmacy sends out for them. They no
longer do any in-house  formulation of medications. Of course, they provide
better service by stocking the "popular" drugs, but they can still order in
any drug for anyone. I would not object to a requirement that they stock
an FDA list of most frequently required medications (let them choose carrying
brands, generics, or both). 
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