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mary
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response 95 of 133:
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Nov 22 15:40 UTC 2007 |
So if she'd come back and entered great items that were popular she
wouldn't have been blocked?
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cyklone
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response 96 of 133:
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Nov 23 14:09 UTC 2007 |
Actually, I think the agreement (which I was not around for) was basically
to not act like the ass she had been when she originally left mnet. You'd have
to ask someone who was around then for the details.
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remmers
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response 97 of 133:
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Nov 25 13:27 UTC 2007 |
I was around. As best I can remember, she agreed not to come back, in
exchange for a partial refund of her membership donation. After a
couple of years, she came back anyway. The M-Net board noted that she
was in violation of the agreement but took no action. This was, like,
five years ago. In view of the fact that her renewed presence on M-Net
was then tolerated for several years, citing the long-ago violation as
justification for the recent banning strikes me as more of a pretext
than anything else.
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cyklone
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response 98 of 133:
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Nov 25 14:35 UTC 2007 |
I don't, as I don't recall any time limit being involved. My understanding
was the deal was she had to behave a certain way. The fact is she violated
that agreement. Waiting to pull the plug on her was fully within the rights
of m-net. I'm mean, she can't very well tell a cop "hey, I've been speeding
for five years now, you can't give me a ticket!"
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remmers
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response 99 of 133:
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Nov 25 16:20 UTC 2007 |
What I'm saying is that I don't think that her violation of the previous
agreement had much to do with the fact that she was banned.
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lar
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response 100 of 133:
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Nov 25 21:07 UTC 2007 |
re#93
yeah, I guess spamming a board with multiple instances of the same post
isn't exactly free speech. However, I didn't get banned for it ( I got a
24 hour time from casper once) twinkie didn't get banned for it.
chamberl didn't get banned for it. The thing that got the ball rolling
looking back on it... If I recall correctly was hera threatening to call
tanis's employers about his totally alledged drug abuse. We all warned
her about it and she didn't do anything. However, it did serve to
escalate the long standing feud between her and tanis. An item voting on
the ban was started by tanis and it quickly became the hottest topic I
have ever seen on m-net. We had like 300 responses or something in 8
hours. The roots took note of the popularity of the item and the
overwhelming response against hera and booted her. cyklone is right,
someone did bring up the old refund issue but that was only an addendum
to the item so remmers is correct. The final decision was made by a
root and not by the B.O.D. My argument was that a root should intervene
in a fully paid member's activities only if technical abuse is being
done by the member. Let's face it cyklone..we banned hera for content.
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cyklone
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response 101 of 133:
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Nov 25 21:44 UTC 2007 |
I wouldn't necessarily disagree with that. While I don't know the terms of
the old agreement, I'm fairly certain she agreed to restrictions on what and
how she posted.
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cmcgee
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response 102 of 133:
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Nov 25 22:08 UTC 2007 |
Folks, this conversation does not belong in Grex's governance
conference.
Please move it elsewhere.
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jep
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response 103 of 133:
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Nov 26 19:55 UTC 2007 |
I was starting to wonder why Grex was discussing M-Net's policies in
Grex's coop. I'm doubtful that most of Arbornet's Board participates in
this conference, so I don't think much is going to get decided here.
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lar
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response 104 of 133:
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Nov 26 20:33 UTC 2007 |
Whatever, The issue came up as a basis to compare grex's moderated
conf. proposal with current m-net practices as relating to free speech
and NOT as a discussion that would effect m-net policy. Didn't mean to
slay your sacred "don't discuss m-net in coop" cow
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nharmon
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response 105 of 133:
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Nov 26 20:38 UTC 2007 |
I agree with Larry. The conversation is very relevant.
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cmcgee
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response 106 of 133:
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Nov 26 20:42 UTC 2007 |
Starting with post 92, this topic has had nothing to do with Moderated
Conferences on Grex.
Please stay on topic.
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lar
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response 107 of 133:
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Nov 27 11:26 UTC 2007 |
In any case a grex already has somewhat of a moderated forum, does it
not? Take coop for example. The FW has cracked the whip. For the record
I want to know why #92 is considered off topic? It's off the cuff humor
but it makes a relevant prediction. In a nutshell, tod is predicting
that a discussion of moderated conferences will soon be a non-issue as
agora will probably be strictly moderated out of necessity.
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slynne
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response 108 of 133:
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Nov 27 18:20 UTC 2007 |
There is a difference between a conference being moderated with
technology and one where a FW simply redirects the conversation. The big
problem is that around here, the latter takes a LOT of work and isnt
always effective anyways.
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lar
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response 109 of 133:
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Nov 28 20:19 UTC 2007 |
"the latter takes a LOT of work and isnt always effective anyways."
Especially when the opinion about a particular post (such as #92) being
off topic is doubtful to say the least. tod does often post off topic
but that doesn't mean every time he posts it should be considered so.
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remmers
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response 110 of 133:
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Nov 29 13:43 UTC 2007 |
I detect some misunderstanding of my suggestion in resp:90 as it wouldn't
limit what people can say or where they can say it, nor would it involve
moving or removing anything that's been posted, but then I haven't thought
it 100% of the way through myself and in any case it would be a major
project to implement so I doubt it'll happen anytime soon, so don't worry
about it. :) (But I'll try to expand on it if there's interest.)
In the meantime - Drift tends to happen when there's a lull and nobody's
injecting new ideas or viewpoints into a discussion. If the Board is
actually thinking of anything by way of conference moderation, I'm sure
they'll bring it up in Coop for discussion first, and that will put
discussion back on track.
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lar
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response 111 of 133:
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Dec 4 21:12 UTC 2007 |
this dead horse has been beat for years by you guys. nothing ever
happens
:forget
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hera
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response 112 of 133:
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Feb 24 02:41 UTC 2008 |
AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I only scanned over this, but it's hilarious that all of your
cowards are talking behind my back! hahahaha!!! Especially cyklown!!! I knew
he was reading every word I write on here. This is rich. NOT TO MENTION that
way back in May, up there in response #2, someone was complaining that agora
was going downhill and it didn't have anything to do with ME. You're all such
a bunch of whiny cowards. Except lar. I have respect for lar. I also respect
those who don't join in the lynching party and hera bashfest. hahahah!
Cyklown, what a jerk you are.
Oh, and there's keesan talking about ME too! Oooh, I thought she was
FILTERING! What a fucking lying cunt. SEE? I am TOO a great judge of
character. I can spot a fucking lying cunt a mile away. ;)
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hera
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response 113 of 133:
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Feb 24 02:43 UTC 2008 |
re #96: AHAHA! WRONG! Cyklown is totally fucking wrong. He doesn't know
anything about any "agreement" which, in fact, there was none. Stupid asshole.
Listen to the stupid asshole, if you want "facts" that aren't true. WHERE ARE
YOUR CITES FOR THAT REMARK, cyklown? Yeah, I thought so.
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tsty
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response 114 of 133:
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Feb 24 08:27 UTC 2008 |
#64.93 Mary Remmers (mary) Thu, Nov 22, 2007 (09:14):
I think you've got free speech issues confused with intentional acts ...
[[...xnip...]]
But that said I'm not sure the totally open model works all that well
anywhere anymore. It's a magnet for people with social issues.
#64.100 larry (lar) Sun, Nov 25, 2007 (16:07):
re#93
yeah, I guess spamming ......
[[...xnip...]]
Let's face it cyklone..we banned hera for content.
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tsty
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response 115 of 133:
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Feb 26 05:49 UTC 2008 |
maybe a moderated newuser woeuld work .... see latere item.
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hera
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response 116 of 133:
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Mar 1 01:22 UTC 2008 |
Retard.
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hera
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response 117 of 133:
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Mar 1 01:39 UTC 2008 |
re #114: You're the one with a "social issue" you skanky cunt whore bitch.
I don't see you contributing much of anything in the General conference.
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tsty
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response 118 of 133:
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Mar 2 01:59 UTC 2008 |
lar;s 100 wnas slighterly off ... nort 'content' raterh, ;mal-content;
mdoerated newsuer nad/or psoting resotrictions seemm the learst-worst chioce.
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hera
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response 119 of 133:
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Mar 7 02:41 UTC 2008 |
What the fuck did you say???? You retard.
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