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omni
response 94 of 247: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 06:24 UTC 1999

  HH is somewhat overpriced, and you can usually cound on them not to have
what you're looking for. I think I'll stay with BMG.
krj
response 95 of 247: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 15:14 UTC 1999

In Lansing, before the advent of Where House Records' classical
section, and Tower Records, Harmony House was the most
useful local resource for classical music, and they also tended to have
some indie rock stuff which other Lansing stores did not have.
 
Harmony House's all-classical shop in Royal Oak is still a useful
resource.  My impression is that this store is larger than SKR Classical
or Tower's classical department, and it often has stuff which we don't
see in Ann Arbor.
 
But I don't see how Harmony House is going to put a store which will 
be comptetitive in Ann Arbor in the small Elmo's space.
otaking
response 96 of 247: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 17:45 UTC 1999

With 3 other records shops (not counting Wazoo and Encore) within one block
of the new HH location, there's no way the new location could compete. It
would have to be really special to get my business.
dbratman
response 97 of 247: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 23:03 UTC 1999

Out here in the oh-so-sophisticated San Francisco Bay Area, there's 
essentially no worthwhile outlet for classical CDs except Tower.  
Fortunately Tower is pretty good.
krj
response 98 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 02:00 UTC 1999

SKR and SKR classical are offering a 20% discount through 
September with the presentation of a student ID from Michigan or 
EMU.  This does me no good, but a few of you may be able to benefit.
mcnally
response 99 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 02:56 UTC 1999

  I was in SKR today, hoping to pick up "69 Songs", the new 3-disc
  Magnetic Fields collection (which came as an almost complete surprise
  to me, I'd heard no advanced hype and the only information I had that
  anything new was due was from talking to band member Claudia Gonson
  after a show last year when she said something vague about "something
  due out next fall.")  Unfortunately they'd sold out of the limited-edition
  boxed set -- apparently the band's area shows over the past couple of years
  have built up more of a local following than SKR expected..

  Since I'd been lured into SKR, though, I decided to buy Richard Thompson's
  "Mock Tudor" and the Talking Heads' re-issued "Stop Making Sense"..

  I then went on to several other record stores to see whether I could find
  the Magnetic Fields box at any of them.  I didn't, but I somehow wound up
  walking out of Tower with a Kinks album, a T. Rex album, a collection of
  Astor Piazzola's tangoes, an afro-pop collection, and a compilation by
  Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, as well as a promo CD sampler.

  All I can say is:  I hope that Magnetic Fields release is *really* good
  because it's already cost me a bundle and I don't even have it yet..  ;-)

  For those who're looking to try something different, Tower is having a
  sale of the "Music Club" collection series and have a display on the end
  of one of their aisles.  They have collections by influential early ska
  acts Desmond Dekker and Toots & the Maytals, a decent early ska collection
  ("This is Ska",) and an excellent classic dub collection ("Dub Chill Out")
  as well as several other interesting picks.

  I *highly* recommend the "Dub Chill Out" collection.  It's very accessible
  classic dub by the greatest masters of the genre -- King Tubby, Lee Perry,
  Augustus Pablo, Scientest, King Jammy, etc..
gnat
response 100 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 03:20 UTC 1999

I'm hearing lots of good stuff about the Magnetic Fields box set.  I
think I'll wait till I see them live next week before I invest.  (I
assume they'll be playing a lot of the new stuff.)
mary
response 101 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 10:48 UTC 1999

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mary
response 102 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 10:53 UTC 1999

Interesting responses there. ;-)
kewy
response 103 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 02:46 UTC 1999

re 98:
just U of M and EMU, another school id wouldnt suffice?  I still use my
MSU id when I want student discounts even though its been about a year.
krj
response 104 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 03:18 UTC 1999

I just report what the sign says.  If you want to try to argue with 
the staff about your MSU ID, be my guest.  
mcnally
response 105 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 17:01 UTC 1999

  This is the week that the "Michigan Money Saver" coupon books are
  handed out around U of M's campus..  They contain both a $3 coupon
  for Tower (good through the end of the year) and a 20% off coupon
  for SKR, so if you're a frequent Ann Arbor music shopper (and as as
  miserly as I am when it comes to music spending..) you'll want to
  take a stroll near campus this week and grab one (or more..)
mcnally
response 106 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 23 03:27 UTC 1999

  Another independent music store bummer..

  I was in Grand Rapids over the weekend and went out of my way to stop
  at my favorite west-Michigan music store, Vinyl Solution.  I was very
  distressed to find an empty storefront where it used to be, and no
  new location listed in directory information.

  Vinyl Solution was an excellent independent record store (especially
  if you consider that it was in Grand Rapids, which isn't a notably
  musical town..) and I'll miss it.

  In the past couple of years Ann Arbor has lost its two most adventurous
  independent stores, Schoolkids' and Wherehouse (technically Wherehouse
  is part of a small Michigan chain, I guess), Grand Rapids has lost Vinyl
  Solution, and even Grand Haven has lost its little music store (a small
  but reasonably eclectic place called "Dan's Compact Music")

  What's driving all of these stores out of business?  Is it the record
  companies?  the Internet?  the big music chains and places like Best Buy?
otaking
response 107 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 23 13:05 UTC 1999

It's a combination of all of the above. Smaller stores can't afford to
undercut prices as much as the big dealers. Internet companies can offer great
deals since they don't need stores. All they need are warehouses, and some
probably just deal directly with the record companies, further undercutting
costs.

We're also dealing with megastores that combine several stores at once (Media
Play, Best Buy and Circuit City springs to mind). Smaller stores that only
offer one kind of product (music, books, clothes) have a harder time of
surviving that the big department stores. That's why Arborland doesn't have
small stores anymore. That's why the Ann Arbor Rd. area is being built up with
huge stores. Small specialty stores just can't survive in this environment.
mcnally
response 108 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 23 16:30 UTC 1999

  In my experience the independent stores usually have *better* prices
  than places like Tower and Virgin mega-stores..  However, I can see a
  lot of their business being drawn away by places like Best Buy, which
  offer much more competitive prices (if also a much less adventurous
  selection.)
lumen
response 109 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 23 20:49 UTC 1999

I think what most small business consultants advise is to strongly 
emphasize better and more personalized service, as well as a 
distinctive and possibly unique product line.  If a business can carve 
a particular niche that can appeal to enough people, then even the 
smaller ones can survive.

For example, I learned rather fast that it's not a good deal to buy 
used music at a regular or even discount store.  I started going to a 
small business dealing in used music, and the tapes and CDs were in 
much better condition, and were cheaper.
otaking
response 110 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 12:52 UTC 1999

I've learned that the used music from the used CD shop on South U. is cheaper
than used CDs at Tower. I can't remember it's name though. If I can't find
something special at Encore, I usually go there.
orinoco
response 111 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 24 22:31 UTC 1999

(Record Exchange?)
otaking
response 112 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 26 17:03 UTC 1999

Yes, Record Exchange.
dbratman
response 113 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 22:08 UTC 1999

For what it's worth, Wherehouse isn't a small local chain: it's a 
national one, and not a very good one.  When they first showed up here, 
in the early 70s before the advent of Tower, they were pretty good, but 
Tower sucked most of their lifeblood away.
mcnally
response 114 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 04:46 UTC 1999

  Actually, these stores were "Michigan Wherehouse Records", which I'm pretty
  sure wasn't related to the much-bigger "the Wherehouse" national chain..

  I agree that the national "Wherehouse" chain is unexceptional.
otaking
response 115 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 13:29 UTC 1999

The A2 Wherehouse had some good import and limited edition CDs that I never
saw anywhere else.
krj
response 116 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 17:14 UTC 1999

Yes, the small Michigan chain and the West Coast chain hit on the same name 
at about the same time back in the 1970s, and I presume they reached
an agreement to stay out of each others territory and avoid lawsuits.
The printed materials for our chain almost always say 
"Michigan WhereHouse Records," like the receipt I got there yesterday.
 
The Lansing phone book lists just three outlets for them here, and 
I think I've heard of a couple of others around the state.  
As we've mentioned, the Michigan WhereHouse store in Ann Arbor 
closed about a year ago.  

In East Lansing, the Michigan WhereHouse store near the MSU campus had 
a near-monopoly on CD sales for over a decade, with competition only
from the State Discount convenience store selling 
the top hits, and the two used CD shops.  It will be interesting to see 
how long the MSU operation can hold out in the face of the Tower store 
down the street.  It's only a small Tower store, but it's still 
bigger and better stocked than any music store which has been in 
East Lansing in the last 25 years.   In WhereHouse's favor: East 
Lansing is not as overbuilt for CD retail space as Ann Arbor is.
mcnally
response 117 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 17:50 UTC 1999

  I'd be interested, if you wind up shopping in both the Ann Arbor and
  East Lansing Tower stores, if you get any feeling that Tower is pricing
  things lower in East Lansing until their competition is gone.

  Their prices in Ann Arbor have gone up significantly and I'm wondering
  whether it's because their near-by competition has dropped off or whether
  it's just a chain-wide price increase..
orinoco
response 118 of 247: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 18:23 UTC 1999

Really?  How recent is "recently"?  I'd noticed pretty low (for tower) prices
when I shopped there a few weeks ago.
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