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response 93 of 160:
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Nov 11 22:53 UTC 2002 |
Gotta give him credit for chutzpah.
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krj
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response 94 of 160:
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Nov 13 19:52 UTC 2002 |
The Register had a story on this about a week ago which seemed a little
sketchy. However, the website listed below appears to be official,
unless it's a well-crafted hoax using BMG trademarks.
BMG is announcing its plans to copy-prevent all its CDs in Europe.
http://www.bmg-copycontrol.info
The Register also had a second story about EMI making similar moves.
If The Register was right on the BMG story, odds are good they're
right on the EMI one as well.
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jmsaul
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response 95 of 160:
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Nov 14 01:18 UTC 2002 |
What a great strategy. That'll certainly increase CD sales.
Huh?
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jazz
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response 96 of 160:
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Nov 14 14:21 UTC 2002 |
Isn't BMG's initiative related to Cactus, which has already been
compromised?
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krj
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response 97 of 160:
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Nov 16 06:53 UTC 2002 |
It seems that Roxio, the CD burner software maker, is going to buy
the assets of Napster for $5 million. As I expected, this is
substantially less than the $8 million offered by BMG; the bankruptcy
court was convinced to rule that the BMG offer was a sweetheart
deal which wasn't maximizing value for the creditors.
(I argue that the record companies, which made this argument in their
role as holders of damage awards against Napster, didn't care that
they were going to get less money in the bankruptcy: instead,
the record companies were trying to screw the other creditors,
mostly Napster's lawyers, as much as possible. This seems to me to
be a serious perversion of the bankruptcy laws; the rejection of
the BMG offer by the court was supposed to lead to *better* offers.)
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-965960.html?tag=lh
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/23/28126.html
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Followup on resp:89, on the report of a study claiming a sharp decline
in the Internet CD ordering business. The first reports claimed
a 25% decline in sales for the first three quarters of 2002, relative
to the same period in 2001. The NY Times had a story which was even
more alarmist: a 39% decline for the third quarter, relative to
2001, and the base period in 2001 includes the weeks after the
September 11 attacks, when US entertainment spending dried up
for a few weeks.
But the bottom of the Times report was taken up with reports by Amazon, the
dominant online CD retailer, and from CD Universe (#5 in the field, I think)
saying that their sales were doing just fine. This doesn't make sense:
if sales are down 25-39%, we should see online retailers folding;
we shouldn't see reports of sales holding steady.
So I'm suspecting the study reporting such a sharp sales decline online
is bogus.
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orinoco
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response 98 of 160:
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Nov 16 16:26 UTC 2002 |
(It could be that the decline is killing off the small retailers, and big
names like Amazon are hanging on okay. Or, yeah, it could be that the report
is full of it.)
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anderyn
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response 99 of 160:
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Nov 17 04:18 UTC 2002 |
I dunno. I buy CDs online from small retailers more than not. But then I like
to buy odd and obscure stuff when I get music -- folk music, from other
countries, that's not available on Amazon. I haven't gotten that much bought
music this year -- and most of that has been at a brick-and-mortar store, or
from the artist directly, though. (OhMIGawd, I just figured it out. It's all
my fault! I'm the reason they think all the sales are declining! I haven't
been out there spending money on CDs so the slump is all my fault! I must go
hang my head in shame now.)
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orinoco
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response 100 of 160:
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Nov 18 14:47 UTC 2002 |
Uh, yeah, Twila. And because of you, the Terrorists Have Already Won. ;)
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gull
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response 101 of 160:
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Nov 18 15:33 UTC 2002 |
I rarely buy new CDs from "brick and mortar" stores, these days. They
rarely seem to have what I want in stock, and if I have to special-order
I might as well cut out the middle man and go straight to Amazon or
CDNOW. When I go to a record store these days, it's usually to buy used
CDs.
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scott
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response 102 of 160:
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Nov 18 16:48 UTC 2002 |
Actually I've bought a few LPs from the ReUse Center ($1 each, which is high
by garage-sale standards) and found some pretty cool music - Burt Bachrach
Plays His Hits, Perspectives in Percussion vol 2 (one of those cool records
they made to push stereo hi-fi).
</keesan>
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polytarp
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response 103 of 160:
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Nov 18 20:20 UTC 2002 |
gulag
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keesan
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response 104 of 160:
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Nov 18 20:43 UTC 2002 |
Keesan buys her LPs by the bagful from the library booksale at about 10 cents
each at the winter and spring clearout sales, but I think they are normally
50 cents each and they have a large selection.
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anderyn
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response 105 of 160:
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Nov 18 21:13 UTC 2002 |
I don't buy lps, although I do own quite a few. I also don't buy cassettes
any more, although I do have several machines that can and do play them. I
have probably several hundred of each in the house, and then there are the
CDs. I don't think I actually *need* to get any more music, but I certainly
want to get more!
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gull
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response 106 of 160:
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Nov 19 14:37 UTC 2002 |
I've occasionally bought LPs, mostly of albums that are out of print and
hence aren't available on CD. I burn my own CDs of the music, after
recording it to my computer and doing normalization and noise reduction.
The results aren't as "clean" as a modern CD, but they generally sound
as good or better than the LP and I don't have to worry about wearing it
out.
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krj
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response 107 of 160:
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Nov 22 19:44 UTC 2002 |
Cnet reports that RIAA is seeking contempt sanctions against the file
trading service Madster, the former Aimster, for failing to shut down
the trading of copyrighted files in compliance with a preliminary
injunction. The owner of Madster was claiming,
IIRC (it's not in this story) that the system was so decentralized
that it could not be shut off. I don't know the details of its architecture;
somehow it is piggybacked on AOL Instant Messenger.
More file trading court dates coming up in the next two weeks.
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-966800.html?tag=lh
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hera
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response 108 of 160:
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Nov 24 07:49 UTC 2002 |
Napster? Does anyone even talk about napster anymore? It's November 2002,
people: get with the times!!
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janc
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response 109 of 160:
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Nov 24 13:04 UTC 2002 |
Having a hard time reading past the title?
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gull
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response 110 of 160:
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Dec 5 14:51 UTC 2002 |
The bargain-hunter site FatWallet.com was given DMCA notices by WalMart,
Target, Best Buy, Staples, OfficeMax, Jo-Ann Stores, and KMart for
posting their sale prices on its site:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/28223.html
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messageview.cfm?start=0&catid=18&threadid=1
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FatWallet complied, but has since filed a lawsuit claiming "frivolous
copyright assertion" and demanding damages, based on their belief that
sale prices are facts and cannot by copyrighted:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/28429.html
Apparently the final straw was when WalMart obtained a subpoena to try
to get FatWallet to name the person who gave them the pricing information.
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slynne
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response 111 of 160:
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Dec 5 15:18 UTC 2002 |
Couldnt someone just walk into any old WalMart store for information on
their sale prices? It isnt like they go out of their way to keep their
prices a secret.
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orinoco
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response 112 of 160:
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Dec 5 15:52 UTC 2002 |
I imagine that's part of what FatWallet's claiming in their lawsuit. Seems
like a no-brainer to me, but maybe there are, uh, subtleties that I'm missing.
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mcnally
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response 113 of 160:
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Dec 5 16:42 UTC 2002 |
If this is the same case I heard an NPR piece on the other day, I got the
impression that the merchants were angry because their upcoming promotions
were being leaked and posted on the site in advance of their official
announcements. If that's the case, then no, the same information wouldn't
be available to someone walking into any old WalMart store..
It's still unclear to me that the merchants have any course of action
against FatWallet. Against their own employees who are leaking competitive
information, sure, but not necessarily against the third party reporting
that information.
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other
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response 114 of 160:
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Dec 5 17:04 UTC 2002 |
Especially since I don't think you can copyright information per se. You
can copyright the specific way in which it is presented, but not the
content itself. (Assuming the content is not in and of itself a unique
creative product.)
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mcnally
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response 115 of 160:
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Dec 5 17:31 UTC 2002 |
It might come under the category of "trade secret" (in fact, probably does)
but the DMCA does not, as far as I know, protect trade secrets.
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gull
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response 116 of 160:
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Dec 5 21:53 UTC 2002 |
I know someone who was once asked to leave a store because he was
writing down prices. I don't remember if it was WalMart or KMart.
The same guy was threatened with legal action for a web site he made
that documented Houghton gas prices for several months. (He was
demonstrating that not only were all the gas prices in the area the
same, they remained at the same (high) level as prices fluctuated in
other nearby towns.)
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dang
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response 117 of 160:
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Dec 5 22:05 UTC 2002 |
FatWallet is now countersuing under the DMCA. (It inlcudes a clause
saying it can't be used for spurious/harassing claims)
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