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drew
response 92 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 4 02:45 UTC 2003

I thought it was klg that had the multiple personalities.
scott
response 93 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 4 14:32 UTC 2003

Granted things are usually/always more complicated than the sort of orguments
we use here...  

My beef with extra effort to catch cop-killers is that it implies that the
police normally don't try that hard to catch non-cop-killers.
tod
response 94 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 4 18:37 UTC 2003

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scott
response 95 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 4 18:41 UTC 2003

Oh, OK.  I was skimming to catch up after being on vacation.

However, that gets me wondering about whether there's any special sentencing
for rogue/corrupt cops, and whether that would be a good idea or not.
tod
response 96 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 4 19:30 UTC 2003

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russ
response 97 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 02:30 UTC 2003

My beef with treatment of cops as exalted beings is that too many
of them are brutes and even murderers, and people should not be
threatened with capital punishment for defending themselves against
a criminal who happens to be wearing a badge.

http://denvercopwatch.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=3/
gull
response 98 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 13:38 UTC 2003

The brother of a friend of mine successfully defended himself in court
from a charge that he'd thrown a rock at a Denver cop.  The cop
apparently saw the rock, but not who had thrown it, and just grabbed the
nearest guy.
tod
response 99 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 16:22 UTC 2003

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rcurl
response 100 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 17:14 UTC 2003

I think it more likely that brutal cops never really think of their victims
as people. They just want to have their way - and take it because they
have the power. 
tod
response 101 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 17:21 UTC 2003

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mynxcat
response 102 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 17:21 UTC 2003

That's generalising a tad too much., The run-ins I've had with the cops showed
me that most of them are pretty reasonable. Including the cop who was
convinced I was trying to run him over.
mynxcat
response 103 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 17:21 UTC 2003

Tod slipped. My comment was in response to rcurl's generic "all cops are
brutes" type comment.
rcurl
response 104 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 17:54 UTC 2003

If you reread #100, I think you can figure out that I said nothing at all
like "all cops are brutes". Do you assert that NO cops are brutes? 
mynxcat
response 105 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 17:57 UTC 2003

My mistake. Sorry.
happyboy
response 106 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 18:14 UTC 2003

the only cops who have ever hassled me were a2 cops.
gull
response 107 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 19:15 UTC 2003

I think part of the reason cops are held in contempt by so many people
is that being pulled over causes almost everyone to mentally regress to
memories of being 12 years old and being scolded by a teacher or parent.
 It's almost impossible not to feel resentment towards them.
happyboy
response 108 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 20:04 UTC 2003

/makes a pouty boo-boo face
rcurl
response 109 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 20:37 UTC 2003

Re #107: especially because you are probably in the wrong, and know it. 
bru
response 110 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 02:26 UTC 2003

while it is true that a police officer has power to ause you trouble, most
will not do it unless you are suspected of criminal activity or decide you
want to be an ass.

If you want to treat him as something less than an honest person, he can
probably make your life less than enjoyable for a period of time.

tod
response 111 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 03:07 UTC 2003

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russ
response 112 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 05:04 UTC 2003

Re #99:
>You went from calling cops brutes to murderers to criminals.

I said some of them are (the generalization to "all" is yours).  I
specifically said "too many", which in this context is any number
greater than zero.  You can't argue that these bad apples don't
give them all a bad name, because they do.

>Do you have reason to believe that cops go to work on a daily
>basis with the intent of brutalizing civilians for fun?

Fun, profit, other motives probably figure in some cases.
Published reports give me reason to believe this, and that some
police departments find it either impolitic or inconvenient to
remove or reassign officers who are clearly not acting within
the law.  Then there's the "blue code of silence".

Aren't there a couple of Detroit officers who have shot multiple
unarmed persons (some fatally) and are still on the payroll?
pvn
response 113 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 07:47 UTC 2003

Aren't there a couple Catholic priests with YBS still saying mass?
drew
response 114 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 20:55 UTC 2003

Probably. Odd that a deity who was against unauthorized sex and same-gender
sex wouldn't zap 'em with lightning bolts or something.

However, priests do have more physical limitations on what they're capable
of doing to people, as well as a bit less legal clout.
bru
response 115 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 21:22 UTC 2003

how old was the car?  Maybe he wanted a good look prior to making you an offer
on it.
lowclass
response 116 of 116: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 22:52 UTC 2003

        On occasion, the priest get by with a serious amount of COmmunity
standing and social clout. you can't stick that in your wallet, but it DOES
in fact travel well.

        From stories I've heard that doesn't only apply to Catholic priests,
or even just christians. Yah pays your money, and yah takes your choice.
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