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tod
response 91 of 253: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 18:15 UTC 2006

re #90
 assuming I'm parsing your rather odd sentence correctly..  Claiming that
 Iraq was dominated by fundamentalists who were kept in check only by Saddam
 pretty directly conflicts with things we know about pre-Kuwait-invasion
 Iraq, such as the very high (for the region) rates of education and
 professional opportunities for women.
I didn't insinuate there was any dominance beyond the dictatorship.  The
"preference" of citizens is that of Fundies, though.  The jails were full of
the religiously outspoken.  Iraq was run by infidels under Hussein and the
only saving grace for him was to give low rent to Palestinians.
And yes, I agree the vacuum was filled by extremism but I disagree that it
was solely aided by outside entities.  If you believe the "insurgents" are
all foreigners then the math just doesn't add up on whole entire cities
favoring them.  I think the reality is that Saudi is about to implode under
the Fundies and has been a losing ally ever since Bill Casey died.  The Bush
regime is losing their grip and misinterpreted Iraq as an easy aquisition
alternative.  Right there greasing the wheels of that power framework is the
Bush regime..just like they did for decades with House of Saud.  Both places
being places you can expect a few hundred beheadings annually.  It has nothing
to do with "Freedom on the March" and everything to do with big contracts.
nharmon
response 92 of 253: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 18:23 UTC 2006

Obviously Tod knows a heck of a lot more about Iraq than I do, but here
is something I don't understand. If the insurgents want a fundie
government in Iraq, and that is what the USA is giving them, why are
they attacking us?
twenex
response 93 of 253: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 18:26 UTC 2006

Todd is an Arab-hater.
tod
response 94 of 253: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 18:48 UTC 2006

re #92
 why are
 they attacking us?
The occupying forces are always going to be fair game if their first name
isn't "Amir".  Here's an example for you: Why was Daniel Pearl beheaded?
nharmon
response 95 of 253: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 19:03 UTC 2006

Okay, so they're attacking us not for what we're doing, but for who we
are. So...why are they attacking Iraqi police?
happyboy
response 96 of 253: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 19:13 UTC 2006

to discourage them from joining.
tod
response 97 of 253: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 19:26 UTC 2006

re #95
You know..the power framework that is being greased which I referenced earlier
would probably include a police force of some kind.  Another house of Saud
would make the Bush folks happy but it probably wont happen that way.
sholmes
response 98 of 253: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 03:11 UTC 2006

They are attacking the iraqi-police cos in all probablity they are seen as
traitors who have joined the foreign invaders.
nharmon
response 99 of 253: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 03:42 UTC 2006

Are the insurgents well organized?
tod
response 100 of 253: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 05:25 UTC 2006

They're in alphabetical order by date of birth
albaugh
response 101 of 253: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 17:55 UTC 2006

Date:         Tue, 31 Jan 2006 07:30:39 -0500
From:         CNN Breaking News <BreakingNews@MAIL.CNN.COM>

-- Coretta Scott King, wife of slain civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr.
     has died, a PR company for the King family says.
tod
response 102 of 253: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 18:25 UTC 2006

I didn't know she was still alive.
albaugh
response 103 of 253: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 18:28 UTC 2006

If a person dies that someone didn't know was still alive, did she really?
tod
response 104 of 253: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 18:36 UTC 2006

She stroked out like back in August.  Was anybody really keeping tabs?
rcurl
response 105 of 253: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 19:28 UTC 2006

Probably, many people.
furs
response 106 of 253: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 02:17 UTC 2006

re 103:  only if a tree falls.
remmers
response 107 of 253: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 12:01 UTC 2006

I wish to announce that as of January 26, 2006, Western Union has closed
its telegraph service.  No more telegrams.

http://www.livescience.com/technology/060131_western_union.html
nharmon
response 108 of 253: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 12:59 UTC 2006

I wonder what Western Union's telegraph service consisted of on January
25th. Perhaps when you sent a telegram, the clerk took your message, and
then e-mailed it to another location, where they would print the message
and deliver.
keesan
response 109 of 253: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 15:27 UTC 2006

I thought they called and phoned the message to you.
In 1985 FedEX used to have a super-fast option in which they faxed material
to the local office then delivered it to you.  They eliminated that.  zip
mail?
rcurl
response 110 of 253: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 16:02 UTC 2006

What is available now for a person to send a written message 
person-to-person within a couple of hours, when neither the sender or 
recipient have any fax or computer access? Overnight FedEx isn't as fast 
as was a telegram. Or is it just that the demand for that has become so 
small that such a service is not sustainable?

There is a radio amateur message service that is still in operation, which 
uses a format like telegrams, but public access to that is very difficult 
except in emergency situations where amateurs have been enlisted to help.

nharmon
response 111 of 253: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 16:04 UTC 2006

Fax and computer access is hard not to have access to with public
libraries (computer access) and kinkos (fax access).
jep
response 112 of 253: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 16:06 UTC 2006

An article I saw said that Western Union delivered 20,000 telegrams at 
$10 each last year.  That's not much business for a company serving the 
entire nation.
rcurl
response 113 of 253: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 16:44 UTC 2006

Re #11: tell us how two people living some distance apart, who do not have
computers or fax machines, can without prior arrangement get a written message
sent by one to the other within an hour or two? Public fax machines and
computers don't help in the delivery of the message. 

It's jep's figures in #112 that explain the failure of telegraph service: most
people have better means, but this still leaves a few in the lurch. They will
just have to "get with the program" (literally and figuratively). 

"Long distance" telephone service may become another victim. Since we now 
have cell phones, and don't make international calls, we never use POTS 
long-distance. Even POTS is under some threat. We dropped our second line 
since we moved to cable internet. Our daughter doesn't have POTS at all, 
relying solely on a cell phone.
nharmon
response 114 of 253: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 16:48 UTC 2006

How does telegraph work? You tell them the name you want to send to and
they magically know where it goes?
gull
response 115 of 253: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 16:57 UTC 2006

Re resp:113: Telephone service and Internet service are going to merge.  
They already travel over the same circuits in many cases.  With VoIP, 
this is going to get carried right through to the end user.  Cable TV 
will take longer to merge, because of its huge bandwidth requirements, 
but eventually all your information services are going to arrive on the 
same pipe. 
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