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jep
response 9 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 29 20:20 UTC 2007

When my son and I visited Washington a few years ago, we drove only to
the nearest Metro and went into the city on a train every day.  This was
a great way for us to get around the city.  I am planning on using it
again next month.

My basic plan was to rent a moderately priced motel room and pack the
kids into it.  It would be embarrassing and inconvenient to be thrown
out of the room for over-occupancy, though.  Then my wife mentioned it'd
be nice (read: cheaper) to get a room with a kitchen so we wouldn't have
to eat out every meal.

Brooke: Thanks for that pointer!  I e-mailed them with further
questions.  I've never tried that particular approach before...
edina
response 10 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 29 20:25 UTC 2007

Let me know how it goes.  It's a great location and it would give you 
the chance to be able to cook for most meals.
jep
response 11 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 29 20:39 UTC 2007

re resp:8: Hotwire and Priceline don't let you specify things like
non-smoking room (my wife would never stay in a smoking room), # of beds
(given the composition of our family, we need to be conscious of this),
or  by amenities such as pool or kitchenette.  It is very hard to find
what I need through these types of sites.  I get discouraged after my
first several hours of reading through their listings, trying to find
out whether any of them have what I need.  If I found one, though, it's
possible it might be a good deal.  But I'd never know until I went there
and stayed there.  I am too risk-averse for this type of site.
marcvh
response 12 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 29 20:44 UTC 2007

Staying outside the city and driving to a Metro station seems reasonable
enough; as a kid I saw Toronto that way (albeit camping, not in a motel)
and it worked out nicely.

Exceeding the maximum occupancy is kinda hard to predict.  If you were
just going to be there one night to crash during a road trip then it
would probably be fine, but if you're spending a whole week there and
using motel amenities like the pool then it seems more likely that
somebody (housekeeping, or guests in rooms around you) might notice and
say something.  A well-placed $20 "gratuity" might get it taken care of
but it's hard to know for sure.
jep
response 13 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 29 21:02 UTC 2007

We might have to consider camping.  I have plenty of camping gear for
two people, but not for 6.  Also, camping requires a certain tolerance
which my family might not be able to generate.

Washington DC is a metropolitan area, but there are scenic parts around
there, too.

It's something to think about.  It might not work this time but it's
something to think about.
keesan
response 14 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 29 21:34 UTC 2007

I suggest giving up on the pool and kitchenette and bringing a one-burner
hotplate to cook on (and a pot) or an electric frying pan.  It would increase
the number of places available and reduce the price - what does the
kitchenette cost per day?  We have a large tent (four person?) you could
borrow if you have enough camping mats, but I doubt there is any campground
in DC.  Why do you want a kitchen and to have someone else cook breakfast?
edina
response 15 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 29 21:44 UTC 2007

Because when you're trying to get people out the door to go do 
touristy stuff, it's easier to have a place where they can go get 
breakfast.  I love staying at a Hampton Inn or Country Inn, as I can 
grab breakfast, as well as usually some granola bars for later, on my 
way out the door.
johnnie
response 16 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 02:18 UTC 2007

re room stuffing / getting caught:

Any moral issues aside, I don't think getting caught with extra people
in a room is something to worry about.  With 3 kids (albeit younger than
yours), we've "over-occupied" on trips, never got caught.  As long as
you're not blatant about it (such as the whole group going to the front
desk to check in), there's so many people running around that the staff
can't keep track, or doesn't much care.  

Of course, that will require that a couple of kids sleep on the floor,
and there will be competition for bathroom time, but that still beats
camping, maybe.
johnnie
response 17 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 02:43 UTC 2007

>Is there no way to put into a travel WWW site what my
>requirements are, so I don't have to explore a lot of individual pages
>in hopes of stumbling across one that offers what I need?

If you go to the web site specific for a particular hotel, you can
typically search for specific room types (one bed or two, non-smoking,
whatever).

That said, I doubt you'll find a place that meets your requirements for
much under $200/night.
tod
response 18 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 03:10 UTC 2007

re #0
Find yourself a Super 8 in a sleazy neighborhood.  So long as you don't leave
the compound then you should be fine.
cyklone
response 19 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 03:41 UTC 2007

Jep. for cooking, get a business suite with a kitchenette. Look for a 
place that caters to businessmen on weekly or monthly out of town 
assignments. Then get cheap room at a Motel 6 nearby. The gals can stay in 
the suite with the kitchentte (because they'll be the ones cooking ;). For 
the guys, get a room with two beds. If the place won't provide a third 
cot, take one of the two beds apart, tossing the mattress on the floor. 
You, of course, get the full bed, and boys can fight, or flip, or 
whatever, for the mattress v. the pad. It's an old trick I learned when I 
did out of town gigs.
richard
response 20 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 14:03 UTC 2007

re #11 jep, I lived in D.C. for years.  You have got to concede some 
things to get what you want.  Your wife should be willing to stay in 
a "smoking" room.  If somebody smoked in that room six weeks ago, you 
won't know the difference.  Kitchenette?  In the city?  Forget it.  
The hotels want you to eat out.  It helps their friends the 
restaurants.  

For what you want, you may need to look outside D.C., rent a car and 
get a mom and pop motorlodge maybe thirty minutes or an hour outside 
town out on the highway in maryland or virginia.  
slynne
response 21 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 14:12 UTC 2007

You can rent cabins in rural places. I think the KOA in Harper's Ferry 
has cabins for around $80 a night. It's not too far of a drive from 
there to a metro stop plus if you are there during the week, you can 
take a commuter train into town. 
richard
response 22 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 14:16 UTC 2007

Or look in Baltimore, its only an hour away by cheap local commuter 
train.  Plenty of people commute from there.
marcvh
response 23 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 14:46 UTC 2007

OK, but the fare for Baltimore to DC is $7 each way per person, or $52.50
for a weekly pass.  Multiply that by 6 people and it becomes significant.
edina
response 24 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 14:58 UTC 2007

Yeah, the MARC is not cheap.  Besides, then you still have to pay for 
metro, and then it's getting pricey.  

I think the idea of a kitchenette in the burbs is a great one.  
Especially if you're in a hotel that has a shuttle to the metro.  
furs
response 25 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 15:23 UTC 2007

yeah, Marc is an expensive ho.
;)
slynne
response 26 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 15:29 UTC 2007

Yeah, wow. I just checked and the *one way* fare on MARC from Harper's 
Ferry is $9!!! (but that is to Union Station). ON the other hand, one 
can drive from Harper's Ferry or thereabouts to the nearest Metro 
station. Harper's Ferry is a location I am suggesting just because it 
is so pretty there and because there are some historically significant 
places to visit there as well. 
slynne
response 27 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 15:30 UTC 2007

resp:25 - HAHAHAHA. Yeah I guess if you want Marc to service you, 
you'll have to shell out some serious bucks. 
jadecat
response 28 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 15:54 UTC 2007

resp:20 Umm, if a person smoked in a room 6 weeks ago then yes- you may
still be able to smell it. Some people have a REALLY hard time dealing
with cigarette smoke. My father is one of them, and cannot sleep in a
room where there have been smokers. He also travels with a smaller air
purifier... 
marcvh
response 29 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 16:12 UTC 2007

I do have a reputation to uphold.  In general commuter rail is expensive
(even with significant operational subsidies) though still a lot cheaper
than Amtrak.  Out here, for example, the Sounder Commuter Rail fare is
25% more than the equivalent bus fare.

I think that a kitchenette would work great for some types of vacations.
For a family of 6 to vacation at the beach, renting a cabin/cottage with
a small kitchen would be perfect; you just pick up some provisions at
the grocery store and you're all set.  For visiting DC it doesn't work
as well, since most of the time you won't exactly be near your room.
jep
response 30 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 17:29 UTC 2007

I like the way some Grexers think out of the box!  If you'd all come
over to M-Net, I'd give you some gribblies.

I like the idea of taking an electric skillet or griddle.  That'd almost
have to violate safety codes for any place that doesn't have a
kitchenette, but it'd sure save a lot of money.

We'd want a kitchenette because, for at least one meal per day, we could
eat in the room and not spend money.  We'd want a free breakfast
because, for one meal per day, we'd eat outside the room and not spend
money (even though the room costs more if a free breakfast is provided).
Also, it will take 1/3 of the time that going out to eat will take.

And we can take sandwiches for most of our lunches.  We'd still be
buying snacks and drinks, no doubt.  But eliminating the cost of 3
restaurant meals per day for 6 people is significant.  McDonald's for 6
is about $40, Red Lobster tops $100, you're talking $200 per day in
saved meal money.  

re resp:20: There are things you concede and things you don't.  There's
always an alternative.  If it's a choice between a smoking room and not
going, we won't go.  But we're not alone in that kind of decision
making.  Hotels have plenty of non-smoking rooms and do not charge extra
for them.  Why would they?  They're cheaper to clean and less prone to
damage and accidents.

re resp:23: Now that's the sort of tantalizing remark that I find
frustrating.  Just how would you go about finding a hotel with free
shuttle service to the DC Metro, while maintaining a full time job and
everyday family life?  Answer me that and I might send you some
gribblies through an inter-Backtalk banking transfer.

Thanks everyone!
mcnally
response 31 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 17:38 UTC 2007

 What about renting an RV?  If the trip goes badly enough you could sell
 the film rights and make a fortune!
edina
response 32 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 17:43 UTC 2007

Ok, I looked at the Residence Inn in the Fair Lakes area of Fairfax - 
they have a 2BR Suite (w/kitchenette) for $149 per night.  They 
include a free breakfast, 2 BR and a sleeper sofa - you can call them 
to ask if they have a shuttle to the metro, but most places do.  The 1 
BR suite is $99 per night.  

tod
response 33 of 126: Mark Unseen   May 30 17:44 UTC 2007

You can always get yourself a $10 hotplate and a $10 heat element to do your
own cooking.  That's how we do Vegas, anyway.  As for cold stuff, once you
get to town, go hit a cheapo drug mart and get the $3 styrofoam cooler and
then keep it stocked with ice from the hotel ice machine.
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