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krj
response 88 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 22 05:03 UTC 2000

OK, late today, not early today, but the magnet order has been placed
and a 50% deposit has been made.  At this point I think it would be 
appropriate for those who pledged money for this project to send 
checks to Grex.
gelinas
response 89 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 03:59 UTC 2000

How much is needed?
janc
response 90 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 01:53 UTC 2000

I just paid my $20 via credit card.  To do this, goto

http://www.grex.org/grexmart/donate.html

Be sure to mention that the donation is for the magnet fund in the
comments box.
flem
response 91 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 03:52 UTC 2000

Pledge summary:  $218 pledged, $20 paid.

I have the pledgers so far as:  janc, mcnally, remmers, krj, aruba,
kaplan, and cmcgee.  If I missed anybody, speak up.  
gelinas
response 92 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 04:22 UTC 2000

Is the amount pledged enough to cover the expense?
krj
response 93 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 04:43 UTC 2000

I have cmcgee's $20 and will pass that along to the treasurer.
 
The receipt is in the car and I am in my PJs, so I can't be exact.
The cost of the magnet order is about $380, including sales tax.
I'm committed to making up the shortfall beyond what I've already
pledged, but another $100-$150 in contributions would cheer up 
my wallet.
gelinas
response 94 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 04:51 UTC 2000

Thanks, Ken, that's what I needed to know.
i
response 95 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 00:13 UTC 2000

Any chance our 501(c)(3) might get us out of paying sales tax?
kaplan
response 96 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 01:31 UTC 2000

Thanks for pointing out http://www.grex.org/grexmart/donate.html , 
Jan.  I've just made good on my pledge the easy way!
aruba
response 97 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 14:36 UTC 2000

Re #95: Grex does not have to pay sales tax if it buys things directly, that
is, if the check comes directly from Cyberspace Communications.  If we
follow our usual practice of reimburing someone, however, we can't get out
of paying sales tax.
other
response 98 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 18:32 UTC 2000

fortunately, i don't believe ther eis a sales tax on insurance premiums.
eeyore
response 99 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 03:38 UTC 2000

re 97: That doesn't make sense.  As long as you have the tax id paper with
you, you should be able to get out of paying the tax.  That's what we normally
do at Things Dismembered.  It doesn't matter if they aren't paying with a
check directly from the school/organization.
iggy
response 100 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 13:08 UTC 2000

what kind of a place is 'things dismembered'?
sounds like something i wish i made up
flem
response 101 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 13:42 UTC 2000

I've spent a fair amount of time poring over sales tax exemption rules and
bulletins and such, and it seems to me that if we wanted to work at it, we
could probably figure out some way to avoid paying sales tax on things people
buy for us and we then reimburse them for.  It would probably require, if
nothing else, at least planning ahead about what gets bought when, which kind
of misses the point of the whole reimbursement model.  
other
response 102 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 14:18 UTC 2000

My experience with this in the past has been to simply provide the vendors
fromwhom I made the purchases the organization's tax ID number, and -- iff
needed -- letters to support its validity and my authority to purchase.  Then,
the amounts to be reimbursed did not include the taxes.
jmsaul
response 103 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 14:23 UTC 2000

Same here.  I think I had to fill out a form at the store, too.
aruba
response 104 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 14:44 UTC 2000

I'm just going by what the lady in the Michigan Department of Treasury,
Sales, Use, and Withholding Taxes Division told me.  (The office that
issued our sales tax license.)  She told me that if we reimburse people we
couldn't get out of paying sales tax. 

Seems like Eric and Joe and Meg have more practical experience.  I suspect
it's what Eric said about having the authority to purchase for an
organization that is at issue.  The State doesn't want anyone to be able
to walk into a store and say they're buying for a nonprofit organization,
and get out of paying sales tax.

I bet that if businesses let people out of paying sales tax, then the
State has the power to force them to prove that those people really were
entitled to the exemption.  Perhaps this is rare enough that businesses
don't worry about it much?

Anyway, I bow to superior experience.  Greg has copies of our 501(c)3
determination letter which anyone can have.  If a business will accept
that as good enough to get us out of paying tax, even though the check is
from someone else, then great!
jmsaul
response 105 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 14:51 UTC 2000

Whoever tries it will need the tax exempt ID number.
aruba
response 106 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 16:38 UTC 2000

It's on the determination letter, I believe.
jerryr
response 107 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 17:41 UTC 2000

places like sam's club demand proof that what you will be buying will be used
for the non-profit.  prevents folks from buying everything in the store and
claiming it's for re-sale or 
twinkie
response 108 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 20:14 UTC 2000

How do you prove that?

jerryr
response 109 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 22:11 UTC 2000

y'know, i tried to kill that because i realized i didn't remember the
conversation as it applied to non-profits.  for profits have to prove somehow
that their business is going to re-sell what they purchase tax free.  when
i was in insurance i couldn't get away with buying camping equipment that way.
i think it involved signing a declaration of some kind.

however, you are free to ignore this response an #107 because i can't back
up any of it.
iggy
response 110 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 22:54 UTC 2000

is that the only reason we are free to ignore it?
jerryr
response 111 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 23:14 UTC 2000

why, no.  you are free to ignore it for any reason.  i know how hard it is
for you to comprehend what you read and i don't want to place any undue
burdens on you and your sagging watermellons.
iggy
response 112 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 00:04 UTC 2000

i plan on getting magnets implanted in my nipples, and then
i will wear steel earrings. that will hold my
chest up.
or make me hunch over
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