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nharmon
response 88 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 17:20 UTC 2006

Oh brother.
bhelliom
response 89 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 17:22 UTC 2006

resp:87 - It's certainly very likely, or at the very least would not be
surprising.
keesan
response 90 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 18:33 UTC 2006

A Sudanese neighbor of mine in a dorm in Macedonia, dental student who fixed
one of my teeth when I was a student there, married a Macedonian woman and
they were planning to move to Germany because they would be treated normally
there.  A Polish roommate of mine married to a Nigerian student in Warsaw said
she could not go to the store with him because people would assume she was
a prostitute, and they were planning to move to his country after graduation.
richard
response 91 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 19:32 UTC 2006

slynne wrote in #86:

"In countries like France and England where there are a lot of black
immigrants, things might be different. 

Have you been to France or watched the news about there recently?  They 
are having race riots in France, bad ones.  France has long welcomed 
the citizens of their former French African colonies to move there, and 
now France is very multi-ethnic in certain areas, and a certain segment 
of the locals DO NOT like it.  There's as much racism in Europe as 
there is in America, lets not kid ourselves.
naftee
response 92 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 21:42 UTC 2006

racism in france is due to long-standing French families feeling alienated
by the new immigrants.  don't forget that the people who started the fires
were younger, second generation immigrant-french citizens.
slynne
response 93 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 22:34 UTC 2006

As it happens, I have both been to France and have heard the news about
the riots in the Paris suburbs. That is why I said that things in France
*might* be different. There is hostility in France towards black African
immigrants but that does not necessarily mean that such hostility would
apply to African-American tourists. I simply dont know if it would or
wouldnt. 
naftee
response 94 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 22 02:58 UTC 2006

i've never been to france :(
bhelliom
response 95 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 22 06:07 UTC 2006

I suspect that the cases I know about may have been in part due to these
students being mistaken for Africans, but I don't recall my friends
making such an connection.
albaugh
response 96 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 23 21:36 UTC 2006

As a white when visiting the Philippines I get noticed, perhaps even stared
at, a lot, and frequently called Joe.  That doesn't make Filipinos racist,
just naturally curious.
tod
response 97 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 23 23:12 UTC 2006

They don't get to see a nightlite that often.
gull
response 98 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 02:19 UTC 2006

Re resp:26: Well, considering that the religious right's chant has been 
"No more Souters," and Bush really needs to give them a nod right now, 
I think we at least have a pretty good idea of the kind of questions he 
would ask a nominee before sending them to the Judicial Committee. 
 
I'm not thrilled with the farce judicial hearings have become, where 
people are transparently nominated based on their views on issues but 
Senators aren't allowed to get answers about those views. 
 
 
Re resp:32: I hope so.  Though in my darker moments I worry that with 
the courts decisively on the side of the conservatives, the odds of a 
fair election have gone down considerably.  The fix may be in. 
 
 
Re resp:37: I'm actually curious who the Republicans will nominate for 
2008, because to me there's no really obvious candidate.  McCain looks 
like the most likely, right now. He's recently made some effort to mend 
his relationship with the religious right, which will be essential if 
he's going to get the nomination. 
 
happyboy
response 99 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 02:59 UTC 2006

condi "fancyboots" rice.
mcnally
response 100 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 03:12 UTC 2006

 I can't believe McCain has any credibility left, having knuckled under
 to the Bush camp that smeared him so abominably in the 2000 primaries,
 but I seem to be one of the few who feel that way so perhaps he could
 wind up being the nominee.  I tend to doubt it, though, because despite
 heroic (if that's the word) amounts of ass-kissing he still doesn't 
 seem to be well-thought of by the party apparatus.
happyboy
response 101 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 03:14 UTC 2006

the moderates like him ok, not so the wingnuts who are in 
power, so yeah.
tod
response 102 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 07:41 UTC 2006

re #99
I dont think the good ol boys have the guts to put Condi out there.
happyboy
response 103 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 09:13 UTC 2006

"she may be a nigra, but she's OWR nigra!"

        --trent lott
tod
response 104 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 18:02 UTC 2006

"We's gots us a token prezdunt"
gull
response 105 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 19:10 UTC 2006

Re resp:99: I don't think Condi has a chance of getting the nomination.  
I'm pretty sure she's on the record of being pro-choice, so she fails 
the single most important litmus test. 
gull
response 106 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 19:10 UTC 2006

On the record *as* being pro-choice, that is. 
klg
response 107 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:10 UTC 2006

   Miss Rice: I believe if you go back to 2000, when I helped the 
president in the campaign, I said that I was, in effect, kind of 
Libertarian on this issue, and meaning by that that I have been 
concerned about a government role in this issue. I'm a strong proponent 
of parental choice, of parental notification. I'm a strong proponent of 
a ban on late-term abortion. These are all things that I think unite 
people and I think that that's where we should be. I've called myself 
at times mildly pro-choice. 
    Mr. Sammon: That was the phrase that kept coming up. 
    Miss Rice: Yeah, mildly pro-choice. That's what that means. I think 
that there are a lot of things that we can unite around, and that's 
where I would tend to be. I'm very comfortable with the president's 
view that we have to respect and need to have a culture that respects 
life. This should be an issue pretty infrequently because we ought to 
have a culture that says that, "Who wants to have an abortion? Who 
wants to see a daughter or a friend or, you know, a sibling go through 
something like that?" And so I believe the president has been in 
exactly the right place about this, which is, we have to respect the 
culture of life and we have to try and bring people to have respect for 
it and make this as rare a circumstance as possible. 
    Mr. Sammon: The only reason I even brought it up was because there 
is a school of thought that says that no conservative Republican can be 
elected president if they are not firmly pro-life. I know you haven't 
ruled anything in or out but... 
    Miss Rice: I'm not trying to be elected. 
    Mr. Sammon: But it sounds like you do not wish to change the laws 
that now allow ... 
    Miss Rice: Well, I don't spend my entire life thinking about these 
issues. You know, I spend my time really thinking about the foreign 
policy issues. But you know that I'm a deeply religious person and so, 
from my point of view, these extremely difficult moral issues where we 
have   where we're facing issues with technology and the prolongation 
of life and the fact that very, very young babies are able to survive 
now   very small babies are able to survive   these are great moral 
issues. 
    What I do think is that we should not have the federal government 
in a position where it is forcing its views on one side or the other. 
So, for instance, I've tended to agree with those who do not favor 
federal funding for abortion, because I believe that those who hold a 
strong moral view on the other side should not be forced to fund it. 
tod
response 108 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:15 UTC 2006

I wonder how she feels about the White House xmas tree lighting ceremony and
if those of us with strong moral views against church/state should not have
to fund that as well?
marcvh
response 109 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:42 UTC 2006

It's hard to imagine the GOP faithful being OK with her as a candidate.
The usual source of candidates would be successful GOP governors.
There are 2 Republican governors who have some degree of national name
recognition, but one is constitutionally ineligible and neither is
particularly anti-abortion.
mcnally
response 110 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:45 UTC 2006

re #109:  Jeb in 2008?  <shudder>
marcvh
response 111 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:53 UTC 2006

Wasn't thinking of him (the other one on my mind was Pataki) but he's
certainly another one most people have heard of.
tod
response 112 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 21:08 UTC 2006

President Edgar Stiles in 2008
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