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mynxcat
response 88 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 20:00 UTC 2003

I've seen East is East. It was good, but depressing.

Billy Eliott was the boy who turned ballet dancer, wasn't it? I liked 
that movie. Then of course there are the Merchant Ivory productions 
which are always good. 

twenex
response 89 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 21:38 UTC 2003

Billy Elliott, that's right. East is East is depressing?
oh dear. I'd heard it was funny.
edina
response 90 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 21:45 UTC 2003

Billy Elliot and East is East were depressing.
mynxcat
response 91 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 21:53 UTC 2003

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mynxcat
response 92 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 21:54 UTC 2003

I was told East is East was funny, and since I'm always interested in 
movies with south-asian families settled in a Westernised country, I 
watched it. It started out being funny, with all those situations with 
a south-asian coping with British life, but it ended depressing, when 
you realise what the kids go through. Definitely depressing. 

I really want to watch American Desi. 


krj
response 93 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 22:04 UTC 2003

I just found out that I missed the rebroadcast of "Saga of Mulan," 
a 1994 Chinese film presenting a Chinese Opera version of the same
story as the Disney animated film.  I did get to see it this spring,
but the videotape had a little accident.  It's not commercially
available, last I saw.  Whine.
twenex
response 94 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 22:50 UTC 2003

Bummer, x2. Maybe if Nixon is still alive you could ask
him to go get it for you...
scott
response 95 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 03:58 UTC 2003

Finally got around to seeing "Pirates of the Carribean" at the discount
theatre.  It was amusing... well, that was about it.  Johnny Depp was pretty
funny, anyway.
gull
response 96 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 15:17 UTC 2003

Yup, Johnny Depp made the movie enough fun to be worth it, for me. :>

I wasn't expecting a great plot from a movie named after a theme park ride.
twenex
response 97 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 16:57 UTC 2003

Actually, I really enjoyed POTC. Possibly because I was expecting it to be
a bit of a joke, but it wasn't.
anderyn
response 98 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 18:24 UTC 2003

I loved it. Am planning on putting it into the permanent film library. I even
loved Orlando Bloom's character quite a bit, though most think him too stodgy.
mynxcat
response 99 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 18:27 UTC 2003

Pirates of the Caribbean was the kind of movie I expected to hate. But 
I enjoyed it thoroughly. Thanks to Johnny Depp.
gull
response 100 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 18:37 UTC 2003

"But...why is the RUM gone?!"
mynxcat
response 101 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 19:14 UTC 2003

Haha.
richard
response 102 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 03:11 UTC 2003

"21 GRAMS"-- This is the first english language movie by famed Mexican 
director Alejandro Gonz lez I  rritu, and it blew me away.  I found the 
movie really moving on a number of different levels.  I don't want to 
give away too much of the story, because you really should experience 
what happens as it unfolds.  But basically it is the story of three 
individuals, each of whom has a past they have escaped from, whose 
lives are inextricably linked by an accident.  These are three people 
from different worlds, who should never meet or know each other.  But 
fate has different plans for them.  This is a movie about suffering and 
surviving, and living through pain, and redemption.

The three leads are played in great performances by Sean Penn, Benicio 
Del Toro and Naomi Watts.  Penn is the center of the movie and if 
anything he as good or better than he was in the recently 
released "Mystic River".  Del Toro (who won an Oscar for "Traffic") and 
Watts (who was terrific in "Mulhulland Drive") give the performances of 
their careers. 

The director, I  rritu, wants the emphasis to be more on character 
study than plot narrative, so he dispenses with the usual chronological 
storytelling, and leaps back and forth to present, past, and future 
events surrounding the incidents in question.  This is done with great 
effectiveness, I think, although if you don't like movies that mix up 
timelines, you might find the technique annoying.

The movie's title, "21 Grams" is how much weight the body is said to 
lose automatically at the time of death.  The difference between your 
body alive and your body dead moments later is 21 grams. Is that the 
weight of a soul?  Is that what you lose when you die?  Anyway, this 
was the best movie I've seen this year, although it is a very dark film 
and you want to be in the right mood when you see it.   ***** (five 
stars) 
rcurl
response 103 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 05:52 UTC 2003

The body can only lose weight if it loses real mass, by exhalation or
secretions. Therefore "21 grams" is some kind of metaphor. Does the movie
divulge the basis for the choice of exactly 21 grams? It sounds like
"numerology" (number magic), but that then means nothing as mass is
essentially continuous and the gram was defined by the French. 
richard
response 104 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 07:59 UTC 2003

well the movie specifically says that is what "21 grams" means.  When a person
dies, his heart stops beating, his blood stops flowing.  That is "kinetic
energy", energy of movement.  Once a body dies, no more body heat is created
and the theory is that there is an instant measurable loss of kinetic energy.
Somebody did a study indicating there is a loss of 20 calories of kinetic
energy at the moment of death.  Which in theory translates into a literal loss
of twenty grams of mass.  
bru
response 105 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 13:47 UTC 2003

Thats how much the human soul weighs.
gull
response 106 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 14:43 UTC 2003

I predict this item is about to devolve into yet another religious
argument. ;>
mynxcat
response 107 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 15:10 UTC 2003

I always thought it was 13 grams. 
rcurl
response 108 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 15:23 UTC 2003

Kinetic energy has no measurable mass until you approach the speed of
light. The relation would be e = mc^2. Likewise, "heat" has no measurable
mass. Put another way, the energy equivalent of 21 grams of mass is the
largest nuclear exposion you can imagine (somewhat like a star going
"nova"). 

twenex
response 109 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 15:55 UTC 2003

Re: #106: Praise the Scales!
bru
response 110 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 16:37 UTC 2003

rcurl testifies to the power of the human soul.
other
response 111 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 18:20 UTC 2003

bru testifies to the persistence of human defiance of cognition.
gregb
response 112 of 225: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 18:53 UTC 2003

A friend and I went to see the Loony Tunes movie.  It wasn't one I was 
planning on seeing, but my friend bought the ticket, so what the @#$%.  
Turned out I loved it.  Naturally, it had all the zaniness of the 
cartoons, but had a lot of puns and commercial references that make it 
really funny to me, like a Wal-Mart in the middle of the dessert.
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