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gull
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response 88 of 104:
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Sep 14 03:04 UTC 2002 |
The article unfortunately doesn't have many details. There's a link to the
paper, but it requires some kind of registration.
I'm not sure it's so far-fetched. Have you ever tried Gnutella? It's
incredibly inefficient. The amount of traffic when you aren't even doing
anything is amazing. It's enough to swamp a 56K modem link all by itself.
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russ
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response 89 of 104:
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Sep 14 03:08 UTC 2002 |
I can see the "squishy" DRM thing lasting about 2 days, then enough
people will have encoded and compared their files to have found a
way to delete or corrupt the identifying informmation. Once the
files are anonymous again, the RIAA has nobody to sue even if they
find an illicit file.
In the mean time, people will download .OGG encoders en masse.
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jazz
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response 90 of 104:
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Sep 14 20:20 UTC 2002 |
Since Napster can use a range of ports, it's hard to tell, but
tracking the most commonly used ones, about thirty-two percent of one DS-3
that we'd used for a test case analysis was used by Napster (when it was
still up) and other common P2P programs at the time.
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krj
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response 91 of 104:
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Sep 16 01:30 UTC 2002 |
The slyck.com coverage of the Sandvine paper is at
http://www.slyck.com/newssep2002/091202a.html
and their link to the Sandvine paper on bandwidth consumption, which
seems to require no registration, is at:
http://sandvine.com/solutions/pdfs/P2PWhitePaper.pdf
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krj
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response 92 of 104:
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Sep 16 22:27 UTC 2002 |
via Wired and the dead tree edition: USA Today runs a summary story on
the struggles between major recording artists, now organized as the
Recording Artists Coalition, and the RIAA labels. Seems like the
RAC group is starting to get some traction; their drive to get a
seven-year limit on contracts, a limit on every other industry in
California, was tabled this year but is set for a big push next year.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2002-09-15-artists-rights_x.htm
Keith Richards says he's not in the struggle for the money, but for
the music: he says it's time for the accountants to stop defining what
good music is.
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In the slashdot followup chatter is this pointer to the San Francisco
Chronicle:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/08/18/PK4256.DTL
Jimmy Buffett ("Margaritaville") has departed the major labels and
set up his own label. He sold half a million copies of his release
on his own label. He's looking to sign other unhappy artists to
his label: he's already landed Poison.
Quote:
> "We make as much money if we sell 100,000 copies this way as we made
> when we sold a million copies through a major label," Poison
> bassist Bobby Dall told Billboard magazine."
Buffet doesn't have the horrendous overhead of the majors -- no big upfront
deals, no high-paid executives -- so the payout to the artists is much
larger.
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krj
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response 93 of 104:
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Sep 20 13:52 UTC 2002 |
via Slashdot: A Robert Cringely column about BayTSP, a company
devoted to searching the net for copyright infringements and
child pornography, on behalf of the copyright industry and the
government, and Mark Ishikawa, who runs the company.
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20020919.html
Buried deep in the story:
> According to Ishikawa, we'll see major arrests in October
> of people who have been illegally
> (and flagrantly) sharing movies. With the evidence already
> gathered, the game is afoot,
> meaning this week is too late to stop sharing those movies
> and expect to get away with it.
> This might be a good time to get a lawyer.
in resp:37 was a report that an official from the Department of
Justice announced that such prosecutions would be happening.
A story I lost somewhere suggested that it would be the movie industry,
and not the music industry, which would be the first to throw people
in jail, because the movie industry worries less about backlash and
its image.
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gull
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response 94 of 104:
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Sep 20 14:55 UTC 2002 |
I still think this is a risky move. The backlash might be political (i.e.,
a call for the laws to be changed) and that could be bad for corporate
copyright holders.
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tpryan
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response 95 of 104:
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Sep 20 16:40 UTC 2002 |
If someone posts a movie in say a usenet newsgroup, but noone
downloaded it, was there any damage?
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gull
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response 96 of 104:
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Sep 20 17:35 UTC 2002 |
Under the DMCA, I don't think damages have to be proven. Just that a copy
protection scheme was circumvented. That'd be either the CSS encryption on
the DVD or the Macrovision encoding on the videotape.
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krj
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response 97 of 104:
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Sep 20 18:02 UTC 2002 |
I don't think we are looking at prosecutions under the DMCA,
but under the NET (No Electronic Theft) act.
Copy prevention schemes are not an issue here; under the NET act,
and for the first time, non-profit copyright infringement becomes
a felony at a certain dollar value threshhold. Prior to this
act, it was (at least in practical terms) not possible to
criminally prosecute copyright infringements which were not for
financial gain.
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other
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response 98 of 104:
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Sep 21 00:07 UTC 2002 |
I suspect the music industry doesn't think it has much left to lose.
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krj
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response 99 of 104:
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Sep 22 00:31 UTC 2002 |
http://www.infoanarchy.org carries a report on Danish raids against
computer users hosting eDonkey servers. eDonkey is a file trading
network which has avoided the mainstream coverage given to KaZaa
and Morpheus. The report is not totally clear, but it seems that
there were 11 servers confiscated at different locations, but only
the owners of two of them were charged. I am not totally clear
on the technical construction of the eDonkey network, but it seems
that the raided servers only contain directory information.
The people carrying out the raids in Denmark regard mIRC as prohibited
software, because it can be used to exchange files.
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janc
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response 100 of 104:
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Sep 22 13:43 UTC 2002 |
Interesting. A while ago we thought Grex was the subject of a distributed
denial of service attack, because we were being hit by a mssive flood of
requests from many different hosts. Closer examination showed that someone
had put an edonkey directory on Grex. Lucky the Ductch police didn't
confiscate Grex.
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jmsaul
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response 101 of 104:
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Sep 22 14:45 UTC 2002 |
Maybe that's what clees is coming over to do.
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dbratman
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response 102 of 104:
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Sep 25 16:59 UTC 2002 |
resp:88 David Brodbeck writes, "Have you ever tried Gnutella? It's
incredibly inefficient."
More inefficient than going down to the record store and buying an
album? (Or online, if you don't have a record store.)
Reports of inefficiency, mess, time-consuming*, and complexity, as well
as my semi-non-techie uncertainty of how I'd get the files to play when
I'd downloaded them has scared me off file-sharing far more efficiently
than any threats from the music industry.
* generally speaking, I find that N minutes spent waiting for my
computer to do something is about as tedious as 5N minutes spent
waiting for anything else in my life I might have to wait for.
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gull
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response 103 of 104:
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Sep 25 17:42 UTC 2002 |
I meant inefficient in the sense that it takes up a large amount of network
bandwidth, even just for things like search traffic that are only
peripherally related to downloading files. I would tend to agree that
getting an album from a file sharing service, burning it to CD, downloading
the cover art and printing it out, etc. is much more time consuming then just
getting Amazon.com to deliver the darn thing to you, though.
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mcnally
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response 104 of 104:
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Sep 26 21:03 UTC 2002 |
A couple of days ago NPR re-broadcast an earlier interview with
Jon Langford, founding member of the long-running British band
the Mekons as well as participant in countless other side-projects.
The interview will primarily be interesting to those who are either
Mekons or alt-country fans but there are a few segments of general
interest, including a bit about 16 minutes into the interview
where he discusses the dificulty of being a modest-selling band
with a major label recording contract.
In the late 80s the Mekons recorded two of their best albums,
"Rock 'n' Roll" and "The Curse of the Mekons" for the major label
A & M but disappointing sales (by A & M's standards) led to
the label's decision not to release in the USA and almost led to
the break-up of the band. Langford talks about this peripherally,
mentioning how the band started at A & M with a theory that an
inexpensively-recorded album with modest sales could still make
money for the label but that after the person they'd signed with
departed, label employees without a relationship with the band
questioned the wisdom of bothering with a band whose sales were
likely to be measured in the tens of thousands and not in millions.
Ever since the A & M debacle the Mekons have recorded for small
indies, though Langford says in the interview that that's no
guarantee of being treated decently, either.
The interview winds down with a few interesting bits about playing
the British punk scene in the late 70s, which may also be interesting
even to people without an interest in the band.
To find the piece, go to www.npr.org and search for "Mekons",
the Langford interview is the most recent item that pops up.
Real-audio player required to listen to the streaming audio.
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