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keesan
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response 86 of 237:
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Jul 23 14:42 UTC 2003 |
I would give up on grex if I had to telnet - it is excruciating. The three
people we set up with grex email (one of whom is paying regularly for it)
would also be unable to use their email. That makes four of us. Dave
Lovelace says he also dials in. That makes five. I would be very surprised
if there are not other dial in users. Then there is Jim - 6 (he emails me
when the phone is busy). I think we have far too many modems but cutting it
to zero would be against the spirit of grex.
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other
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response 87 of 237:
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Jul 23 14:50 UTC 2003 |
If you're dialing in to grex from home, but you CAN telnet in, where are
you dialing into to telnet to grex?
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scott
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response 88 of 237:
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Jul 23 15:03 UTC 2003 |
Modems constitute free Internet access with extremely cheap hardware. Still
part of Grex's mission, I believe.
Although we could probably look into cutting a line or two again.
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glenda
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response 89 of 237:
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Jul 23 16:16 UTC 2003 |
I telnet in and have no problems with slower speed, etc. like Sindi described
earlier. Even when I use phone modem as opposed to the cable modem.
Of course I have a pentium 3 at 500Mhz and 768Mb of memory. I'm sure this
helps to make it a more enjoyable experience.
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slynne
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response 90 of 237:
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Jul 23 16:33 UTC 2003 |
reducing the number of phone lines probably wont make much of a
difference. eliminating them will. besides, sometimes my isp flakes out
and then I dial in so, personally, I would like at least one or two
phone lines kept in service.
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tod
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response 91 of 237:
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Jul 23 17:06 UTC 2003 |
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keesan
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response 92 of 237:
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Jul 23 17:13 UTC 2003 |
I have an $8/month ISP that I use to download large files once in a while,
or if I really need to look at an image, or when grex is dead for five days
and I have to send email. I may have used it for 2 hours this month out of
the 30 I paid for. I have Opera 6 set up with Linux in case I really need
to access my bank's website (they crippled it with javascript). Jim asks how
many lines we are still paying for and how many are being used more than 5%
of the time.
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tod
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response 93 of 237:
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Jul 23 17:35 UTC 2003 |
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janc
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response 94 of 237:
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Jul 23 18:11 UTC 2003 |
Yeah, we could put in an X11 interface that would let us remotely power
cycle the terminal server. We even have all the parts. However, this
hasn't been a frequent problem, so I'm too lazy to figure out how to
do it.
No Grex staffer or board member that I know of wants to eliminate the
modems. If one show up who does, he will be pummeled into submission by
the rest of the board and staff. Eliminating the modems is not an option
that is being considered. Nearly everyone wants to reduce the count a
bit more, but that has to wait until our centrex contract expires later
this year.
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gull
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response 95 of 237:
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Jul 23 19:30 UTC 2003 |
I'm not sure why telnet is so slow for Sindi. It used to be for me,
back before Grex got a faster 'net connection, but in the last year or
two it's been pretty fast for me.
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mynxcat
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response 96 of 237:
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Jul 23 19:46 UTC 2003 |
My opinions about the modems are just that, my opinions. I don't
expect anyone to jump at the idea and do anything about it. It's
understandable that Grex has other priorities and other goals that are
not inline with mine.
My post was gut reaction to Russ's attack and his not so valid
argument.
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tod
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response 97 of 237:
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Jul 23 20:29 UTC 2003 |
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janc
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response 98 of 237:
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Jul 23 20:33 UTC 2003 |
We already have the hardware. Didn't I say that? In prehistoric days we used
to use it to power-cycle something that kept dieing. Might have been Grex.
I don't remember. But the terminal server is really pretty reliable. It was
only futzed up this time because things were booted in the wrong order. A
technological fix would be overkill.
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tod
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response 99 of 237:
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Jul 23 20:44 UTC 2003 |
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cross
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response 100 of 237:
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Jul 23 21:08 UTC 2003 |
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gelinas
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response 101 of 237:
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Jul 24 03:19 UTC 2003 |
I didn't ask about their dial-in options because Mary had already said that
they offer the service.
A separate terminal server made sense when the hardware was different.
Right now, this minute, I can't decide if it still makes sense; I _like_ the
idea of having the modems on a Portmaster. (I remember when a PDP-11 clone
had trouble with more than six or so PPP connections at 9600bps; we've come
a _long_ way since then, but I don't have a feel for the load a PPP connection
would put on the main machine. Nor do I know that such a connection would
make sense for grex's dial-in modems when directly connected to the grex
machine.)
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cross
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response 102 of 237:
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Jul 24 04:16 UTC 2003 |
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gelinas
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response 103 of 237:
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Jul 24 04:20 UTC 2003 |
*I*'m suggesting we should provide PPP.
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aruba
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response 104 of 237:
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Jul 24 10:52 UTC 2003 |
This discussion really belongs somewhere else besides the system problems
item, I think.
We have occasionally, over the years, discussed allowing PPP connections to
Grex, because fewer and fewer computer users even know there *is* another
kind of modem connection you can make. People connectiong to Grex via PPP
wouldn't be allowed to http out onto the internet, but they could access
Grex's web pages that way. (We don't want to compete with real ISPs.)
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mary
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response 105 of 237:
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Jul 24 12:33 UTC 2003 |
I'll follow-up on the modem question.
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gull
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response 106 of 237:
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Jul 24 19:19 UTC 2003 |
I'd be careful about using any modem that could be described as "cheap"
for dial-in service. I haven't had good luck with that combination.
For example, while US Robotics Sportster modems work great for dialing
out, I had all kinds of reliability problems with a couple of them at
work until I replaced them with Couriers. The Sportsters simply would
never complete the initial negotiation if certain other brands of modem
tried to dial into them.
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cross
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response 107 of 237:
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Jul 24 22:01 UTC 2003 |
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dcat
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response 108 of 237:
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Jul 24 23:56 UTC 2003 |
/c is full again. from df:
/dev/sd4a 1944365 1749942 0 100% /c
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keesan
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response 109 of 237:
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Jul 25 14:57 UTC 2003 |
I dialed 7615041 and my login timed out after 120 seconds without even giving
me a login prompt. Dialed 7613000 and got instant login prompt.
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russ
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response 110 of 237:
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Jul 26 13:18 UTC 2003 |
WARNING TO ADMINS: The failure of one port as Sindi details in #109
is exactly what presaged last week's total failure of the terminal server.
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