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gull
response 85 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 06:29 UTC 2006

Re resp:84: Yes, I found that interesting, too. Gov. Granholm has also 
taken criticism for being insufficiently Catholic.  For a while 
Catholics were picketing her house calling for her excommunication. 
richard
response 86 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 18:07 UTC 2006

I think that if Granholm was a man she would not be as unpopular.  Female
politicians tend to get unpopular a lot faster.  Hillary Clinton always has
higher negatives than her husband.  Some people are still distinctly
uncomfortable with females in power.
edina
response 87 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 18:09 UTC 2006

Someday, we're going to find out that Richard is a woman.
tod
response 88 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 18:15 UTC 2006

re #87
There are several on Grex and I don't blame them for flying below radar.
edina
response 89 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 18:18 UTC 2006

Hey, I say it loud:  "I've got ovaries and am proud!"
richard
response 90 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 18:40 UTC 2006

no Im just a guy who's a feminist, in contrast to some of the women on here
who appear to be "female male chauvinists" in some cases.  

do you why some people think hillary clinton would lose if she ran for
president in 2008?  Because they think there are a number of females who won't
vote for a female president.  Some women want a man in charge.
,
edina
response 91 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 18:46 UTC 2006

I never said I'm a feminist - nor am I a male chauvinist - I tend to be an
equalist.  

I think HRC would lose (and it chagrins me to say it, as I really like her
and will vote for her) because she has left a bad taste in many mouths. 
People dont' like her for being so outspoken about issues like health care,
yet the same fault her traditional values of sticking by her husband.  I have
always felt she walks a very fine line.
tod
response 92 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 18:48 UTC 2006

I dont want Hillary nor Romney in 2008.
edina
response 93 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 18:50 UTC 2006

Well then, who do you want in 2008.  Seriously.
richard
response 94 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 18:51 UTC 2006

re #91 there's something wrong with being outspoken about health care?
sheesh...
./
nharmon
response 95 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 18:55 UTC 2006

Re 93: Bill Richardson.
tod
response 96 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 18:56 UTC 2006

re #93
Right now, Mark Warner looks like a safe gamble.
kingjon
response 97 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 18:57 UTC 2006

Tom and Ray Maliazzi, better known as Click and Clack the Tappet Brothers.

edina
response 98 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 18:57 UTC 2006

No Richard, there is nothing wrong with it.  At least in my eyes, there isn't.
Nor is staying with your husband for whatever reasons.  

It's kind of a shame that Laura Bush returned to the more traditional role
in the White House.  It's like she set back Hillary's progress.
johnnie
response 99 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 19:01 UTC 2006

Nothing shameful about it.  Not everyone wants to be a politician or be
in the public eye.  
richard
response 100 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 19:03 UTC 2006

when the clintons got married, she didn't take his name.  She remained Hillary
Rodham and for several years was crucified by the right, they said she was
disrespecting her husband by not taking his name, and that he was somehow a
weak husband for not MAKING her take his name.  For political reasons, and
because she was tired of the bs, she gave in and added "clinton" to her name.
It is hard for a female politician to be her own person in a chauvinist
society.
edina
response 101 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 19:07 UTC 2006

Re 99 - Maybe shameful isn't the best word, but to be honest, Laura Bush
represents a small percentage of the women in this country.  I always felt
HRC better represented me - she worked, she's a mother, etc.  Maybe that is
why I have no issue voting for her.  
richard
response 102 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 19:11 UTC 2006

hrc also always earned more money than her husband, she was the one "bringing
home the bacon" as they say.  some still think women shouldn't work, let alone
make more money than their husband.
edina
response 103 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 19:14 UTC 2006

I think it is safe to say that that "some" is decreasing.
tod
response 104 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 19:21 UTC 2006

HRC represents special interests I'm not exactly aligned with.

"Marriage has got historic, religious and moral content that goes back to the
beginning of time, and I think a marriage is as a marriage always has been,
between a man and a woman." - Hillary Clinton, opposing same-sex marriages,
quoted in The New York Daily News 
kingjon
response 105 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 19:26 UTC 2006

I'm amazed -- finally something I agree with a Clinton about!

marcvh
response 106 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 19:30 UTC 2006

Do you think those are her "real" views, or what she's saying to try to
get elected?
richard
response 107 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 19:31 UTC 2006

hrc also supports benefits for same sex couples, and civil unions.  she
attended a gay committment ceremony for one of her aides here in nyc some time
back.
tod
response 108 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 19:39 UTC 2006

HRC also supports "regulating" the Internet.
Civil union does not equal marriage.  Don't be so obtuse.
richard
response 109 of 137: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 19:45 UTC 2006

personally, I hope that the good senator from Wisconsin, Russ Feingold,
decides to run for President in 2008.  
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