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tod
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response 85 of 116:
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Sep 2 20:01 UTC 2003 |
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bru
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response 86 of 116:
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Sep 3 00:33 UTC 2003 |
All crime attacks the basic infrasturcture of society. Why is the clerk at
the Holiday Inn with three kids and a husband worth less than the 50 year old
divorced alcoholic cop?
She isn't.
Both deserve justice.
Now, who should decide what justice is? Should it not be the same as what
they committed? If they killed someone, then death. OR, at the behest of
the family that lost the loved one, life in prison.
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jmsaul
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response 87 of 116:
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Sep 3 02:46 UTC 2003 |
If you're a believer in deterrence, the argument for stronger penalties for
crimes against certain people is that there's more temptation to attack those
people, so more deterrence is required to dissuade potential attackers. That
applies pretty well to cops, since their job requires them to interfere with
violent people.
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rcurl
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response 88 of 116:
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Sep 3 05:39 UTC 2003 |
Re #86: no, it should not be "the same as what they committed". There is
an enormous range of culpability for any crime, which must be taken into
consideration in a civilized society. If someone runs down a person
wandering on the highway on a dark and stormy night, should they be run
down in turn? If you shoot a mugger, should you be shot? Once you admit
that an absolute "eye for an eye" is not right, then you are having to
draw distinctions and make judgements and discover your own morality and
not necessarily adopt the morality of a criminal.
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bru
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response 89 of 116:
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Sep 3 21:55 UTC 2003 |
the problem with an eye for an eye is that it is a limit, not a goal.
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tod
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response 90 of 116:
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Sep 3 22:09 UTC 2003 |
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mynxcat
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response 91 of 116:
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Sep 3 22:37 UTC 2003 |
Lol
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drew
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response 92 of 116:
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Sep 4 02:45 UTC 2003 |
I thought it was klg that had the multiple personalities.
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scott
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response 93 of 116:
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Sep 4 14:32 UTC 2003 |
Granted things are usually/always more complicated than the sort of orguments
we use here...
My beef with extra effort to catch cop-killers is that it implies that the
police normally don't try that hard to catch non-cop-killers.
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tod
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response 94 of 116:
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Sep 4 18:37 UTC 2003 |
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scott
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response 95 of 116:
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Sep 4 18:41 UTC 2003 |
Oh, OK. I was skimming to catch up after being on vacation.
However, that gets me wondering about whether there's any special sentencing
for rogue/corrupt cops, and whether that would be a good idea or not.
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tod
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response 96 of 116:
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Sep 4 19:30 UTC 2003 |
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russ
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response 97 of 116:
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Sep 5 02:30 UTC 2003 |
My beef with treatment of cops as exalted beings is that too many
of them are brutes and even murderers, and people should not be
threatened with capital punishment for defending themselves against
a criminal who happens to be wearing a badge.
http://denvercopwatch.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=3/
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gull
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response 98 of 116:
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Sep 5 13:38 UTC 2003 |
The brother of a friend of mine successfully defended himself in court
from a charge that he'd thrown a rock at a Denver cop. The cop
apparently saw the rock, but not who had thrown it, and just grabbed the
nearest guy.
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tod
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response 99 of 116:
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Sep 5 16:22 UTC 2003 |
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rcurl
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response 100 of 116:
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Sep 5 17:14 UTC 2003 |
I think it more likely that brutal cops never really think of their victims
as people. They just want to have their way - and take it because they
have the power.
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tod
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response 101 of 116:
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Sep 5 17:21 UTC 2003 |
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mynxcat
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response 102 of 116:
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Sep 5 17:21 UTC 2003 |
That's generalising a tad too much., The run-ins I've had with the cops showed
me that most of them are pretty reasonable. Including the cop who was
convinced I was trying to run him over.
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mynxcat
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response 103 of 116:
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Sep 5 17:21 UTC 2003 |
Tod slipped. My comment was in response to rcurl's generic "all cops are
brutes" type comment.
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rcurl
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response 104 of 116:
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Sep 5 17:54 UTC 2003 |
If you reread #100, I think you can figure out that I said nothing at all
like "all cops are brutes". Do you assert that NO cops are brutes?
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mynxcat
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response 105 of 116:
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Sep 5 17:57 UTC 2003 |
My mistake. Sorry.
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happyboy
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response 106 of 116:
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Sep 5 18:14 UTC 2003 |
the only cops who have ever hassled me were a2 cops.
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gull
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response 107 of 116:
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Sep 5 19:15 UTC 2003 |
I think part of the reason cops are held in contempt by so many people
is that being pulled over causes almost everyone to mentally regress to
memories of being 12 years old and being scolded by a teacher or parent.
It's almost impossible not to feel resentment towards them.
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happyboy
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response 108 of 116:
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Sep 5 20:04 UTC 2003 |
/makes a pouty boo-boo face
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rcurl
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response 109 of 116:
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Sep 5 20:37 UTC 2003 |
Re #107: especially because you are probably in the wrong, and know it.
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