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richard
response 84 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 20:40 UTC 2005

hey plenty of famous world leaders in history have kept concubines, 
whole groups of women, to service them.  Being a world leader is a 
tough, intense job ya know, even the best leaders need a little release 
of tension now and again.  :)

twenex
response 85 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 20:43 UTC 2005

IT'S A HARD JOB!
tod
response 86 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 20:45 UTC 2005

Thomas Jefferson kept slaves, too.  You think everybody with a stressful job
should have a few slaves around?
richard
response 87 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 20:51 UTC 2005

re #86 bad analogy, we're talking about people who are paid, not 
slaves.  Monica Lewinsky was on the payroll.  
marcvh
response 88 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 20:52 UTC 2005

Sure, as long as he's not using the power of the executive branch to tap them.
twenex
response 89 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 21:05 UTC 2005

So it's OK to bang slaves?
marcvh
response 90 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 21:09 UTC 2005

Re #89, are you asking me?
twenex
response 91 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 21:13 UTC 2005

No, that was a joke.
gull
response 92 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 23:04 UTC 2005

Re resp:78: So basically, you assume that Clinton would have done 
anything to protect his personal life, but give Bush the benefit of the 
doubt by suggesting he might have good reasons for doing what he's 
done.  Your partisanship is showing. 
 
Actually, the partisanship and hypocrisy in this whole issue is kind of 
disgusting.  Clinton was subjected to a long, multi-million-dollar 
fishing expedition by a political party that was desperate to destroy 
him.  No allegation was too minor for them.  They investigated a 20 
year old failed land deal.  They probed his private life.  They 
listened to 140 hours of testimony about his Christmas card list.  They 
conducted a Congressional investigation of his pet cat's fan club.  
They picked that administration apart, top to bottom, and at the end of 
it all they could come up with was that he'd gotten a blow job. 
 
Now the same party is showing a marked lack of interest in 
investigating serious allegations of wrongdoing by Bush.  The same 
people who castigated Clinton for getting a blow job are making excuses 
for our current President.  I kind of expected more from the party that 
claims to represent morality and transparent government. 
 
dpfitzen
response 93 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 23:46 UTC 2005

I wonder if it was a matter of living in a glass house that people didn't hold
Clinton responsible for anything other than breaking the law when he lied to
authorities.  Whatever the same people that got the facts as Pres. Bush want
now to say he lied.  Our problem is not getting the facts and remembering them
correctly and in order.  The Chicago Tribune started a series on judging the
case for war(editorials).  It is very good reading you might also find
worthwile. 
marcvh
response 94 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 00:36 UTC 2005

Re #93, um, we weren't talking about WMDs or Iraq.  You've done a good
job of reiterating the standard Fox News talking points, I guess, but
they aren't really applicable to this subject.
tod
response 95 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 00:39 UTC 2005

re #93
Dude, your record skipped
We're talking about wiretaps
nharmon
response 96 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 00:46 UTC 2005

As a conservative, I share a lot of you people's disgust in the lack of
prying on the congress's part in regards to Bush's actions. I think that
a GOP-majority congress impeaching a sitting republican president would
show a hell of a lot of integrity and would do well to restore the
world's opinion of the United States.
twenex
response 97 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 00:55 UTC 2005

Re: #92. Disgusting, but hardly unexpected. Remember the sort we're dealing
with here.
bhelliom
response 98 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 01:36 UTC 2005

resp:93 - I think where the disconnect comes in is the argument over
whether it was anyone's business in the first place.  Many feel that it
was not, and don't get over to the business of lawbreaking.
dpfitzen
response 99 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 02:55 UTC 2005

R94  Yes the topic of discussion started out much different than it ended up
however starting about 80 or so you will read my reply applied to the current
discussion .  Who lied and why.  Which made me think of the article in the
Chicago Tribune which I thought some would find interesting. You are right
it was also discussed on Fox tonight.  It is odd how the discussions change
the further they go isn't it? 
cyklone
response 100 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 04:11 UTC 2005

Not really. This item started about impeaching Bush. Naturally, the Clinton
impeachment entered the discussion. What was "unnatural" was your trying to
confuse the issue by using Fox/GOP talking points about Iraq in a discussion
where that was not the focus. Good luck distracting your neighbors from the
real issue, though.
tod
response 101 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 05:10 UTC 2005

Peach and Bush are a hot topic this week.  *pause for canned laughter*
bhelliom
response 102 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 06:01 UTC 2005

*hands tod a can opener*
tod
response 103 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 06:27 UTC 2005

Mine's dented!
tsty
response 104 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 06:34 UTC 2005

 .. tha;s why you were given a new one ....
bhelliom
response 105 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 08:36 UTC 2005

Your canned laughter is dented? That's not funny.
jep
response 106 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 13:30 UTC 2005

re resp:92: Did you miss the part where I said I think Bush should be 
impeached?  Is that why you call my comments "partisan"?

Or maybe it's because I say Clinton's lies to the country were to 
protect himself from his personal indiscretions, but Bush's may 
possibly have been because he thinks he is benefitting the country.  
(Though, as I added, I don't believe that myself.)

Sigh.  I would have thought you of all people on Grex would be able to 
catch the gist of comments.  I am surprised you need a reminder summary 
to help you to not reverse the intent of everything I've said.

It is true that I am a conservative voter.  I'm strongly against 
abortion.  I prefer low taxes to big public projects such as free 
national health coverage.  I like the two serious Supreme Court 
nominees that Bush has named.  I even think ANWR should be open for oil 
production.  I despise the ACLU.

If I'd never posted in this item, or discussed any of my views about 
Bush over the last three years, you could have reasonably concluded I'm 
pretty partisan in favor of the Republican Party and the current 
administration.  Given what I've said here, writing at some length, 
which I think has been pretty hard on Bush (whom I voted against in 
2004, did you know that?  I voted for Kerry), I really don't think I 
fit the mold you put me in.
richard
response 107 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 15:43 UTC 2005

re #106 jep, why do you despise the ACLU?  The ACLU only exists to 
protect your constitutional rights.  The ACLU's role is not political, 
it does not endorse candidates.  It has represented many conservatives, 
such as Rush Limbaugh and the KKK.  I cant understand why you'd despise 
them unless you've been watching too much Fox News Channel.
rcurl
response 108 of 404: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 16:34 UTC 2005

The reason may be that jep thinks the Bill of Rights in the Constitution
is too liberal. 
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