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Grex > Music2 > #167: Recorded Music Delivery Formats Past & Present |  |
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senna
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response 83 of 126:
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Jan 19 05:27 UTC 1999 |
I download only live audio files which are not commercially available, thus
not cutting into the artist's profits. This is, however, mostly coincidental,
since the only things I want to hear are live.
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cloud
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response 84 of 126:
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Jan 24 03:28 UTC 1999 |
The music industry must not be doing such a hot job of quashing the "Rio".
I've seen for sale all over the place. It's not as expencive as I thought
it would be, either, 'though it ain't cheap.
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lumen
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response 85 of 126:
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Jan 25 07:22 UTC 1999 |
The MTV special I was alluding to earlier says that the recoil reaction of
the music business to MP3 and other soundwave files has actually fueled their
appeal, making it seem 'cool'.
Hmm..blame it on the old counterculture.
Of course, the court rulings helped, too.
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mcnally
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response 86 of 126:
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Jan 25 07:48 UTC 1999 |
The music industry's opposition is *definitely* fueling the popularity of
the MP3 format. On the whole it's just really not that convenient for most
people. Most internet users don't have the bandwidth, the storage, or
the patience to really make it practical.. (Yet!)
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orinoco
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response 87 of 126:
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Jan 25 19:34 UTC 1999 |
There's been a lot of hubbub about how the combination of home-appliance CD
burners and the MP3 format will mean a lot more music distribution over the
internet. Why does nobody seem to be downloading music and then taping it?
I've never tried this, but it seems like it would be as easy as plugging the
speaker port of yr computer into the microphone port of a tape recorder. Is
there some hidden catch to this, or are people doing it and it's just not
getting as much publicity, or what?
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jazz
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response 88 of 126:
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Jan 25 20:02 UTC 1999 |
It's entirely feasible. I'm burning some of the old IEC demo reels
for the band's former drummer right now.
The problem is it's lower-fidelity, really, and it's somewhat
cumbersome to convert audio input (analogue) to wav or mp3 format.
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jiffer
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response 89 of 126:
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Jan 25 20:48 UTC 1999 |
orinoco, its possible and it has been done. =)
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scott
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response 90 of 126:
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Jan 26 00:19 UTC 1999 |
It can be done, but most sound cards yield pretty crappy sound used this way.
A good sound card is a bit more expensive.
I'd like to see portable players that can read mp3 loaded CDs, so I could
accumulate a bunch of tracks on just a few CDs. Granted I no longer travel
with a CD player, but when I did I carried about 20 CDs in plastic sleeves
and still missed stuff I hadn't brought with me.
A really neat idea for Rio type devices (mp3 playback) I read somewhere would
be to download several hours of talk (books on tape, NPR, etc) at a
less-than-CD level, and have news with you at your convenience.
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jazz
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response 91 of 126:
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Jan 26 13:50 UTC 1999 |
If audio advances follow PDAs, that's entirely viable. PDA's - about
the same price range - handle the same FLASH PCMCIA cards (usually Minis) and
are considerably more flexible when it comes to downloading and playing
nonstandard formats. You could even record RA for a PDA.
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mcnally
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response 92 of 126:
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Jan 27 05:33 UTC 1999 |
Yeah, I think that the convergence of PDA with music player is only a
matter of time (and storage practicality.. it can be done right now
but for it to *really* take off a more convenient / cheaper / higher
density flash memory technology would help..)
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jazz
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response 93 of 126:
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Jan 27 20:20 UTC 1999 |
FLASH is pricey now because it's not a popularly viable technology.
Perhaps minidisc readers will prove more popular when redesigned and
repackaged?
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orinoco
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response 94 of 126:
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Jan 29 01:02 UTC 1999 |
What it PDA? I've only ever heard that acronym for Public Display of
Affection, and that can't be right.
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fungster
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response 95 of 126:
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Jan 29 01:56 UTC 1999 |
Personal Digital Assistant.
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mcnally
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response 96 of 126:
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Jan 29 04:04 UTC 1999 |
meaning a handheld computer like a PalmPilot or a Newton or such..
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orinoco
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response 97 of 126:
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Jan 29 20:19 UTC 1999 |
Ah. Right. Good.
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jazz
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response 98 of 126:
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Jan 30 12:35 UTC 1999 |
The new ones are pretty versatile. Instead of using the PalmPilot's
USR-Dragonball processor, they use a MIPS or SH-3, and run a very
stripped-down OS with some resemblance to Windows called Windows CE (the start
menu is about the only similarity). Although ordinarily I wouldn't be
enthusiastic about yet another computer running Windows, or any Microsoft
product, they do integrate well with existing Windows boxes, and have proven
quite handy.
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scott
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response 99 of 126:
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Jan 30 13:25 UTC 1999 |
It's pretty hard to get more efficient than the PalmOS operating system,
though. WinCE devices need 3-4x the hardware just to keep up. Besides, I
refuse to use a PDA that doesn't have its CPU named after an anime series.
</drift>
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jazz
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response 100 of 126:
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Jan 30 13:37 UTC 1999 |
<drift> Yeah, I love that name too. </drift>
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keesan
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response 101 of 126:
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Feb 1 00:28 UTC 1999 |
When do we expect portable recorded-music players that play digital music,
run on 2 AA cells, and are the size of a Walkman? (Smaller than a CD player).
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orinoco
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response 102 of 126:
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Feb 1 01:39 UTC 1999 |
I've seen small DAT recorder/players; I imagine they're mighty expensive, tho.
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eieio
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response 103 of 126:
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Feb 1 03:33 UTC 1999 |
And there are a few Mini Disc portables out from Sony and some others. I can't
make any promises on what types of batteries they use.
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shf
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response 104 of 126:
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Feb 1 04:04 UTC 1999 |
What do you call the Diamond Rio? not sure of how many batteries it requires
but it plays mp3s, but from what I hear, its a pain to use ( takes a long time
to load files)
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keesan
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response 105 of 126:
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Feb 1 04:13 UTC 1999 |
Is there music on a chip yet (longer than what the answering machine can
store)? I heard predictions about buying chips instead of disks, you just
plug them in like memory chips and instant access. Is this still a dream?
They have short tunes in cheap children's toys now.
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mcnally
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response 106 of 126:
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Feb 1 06:01 UTC 1999 |
It's probably not feasible to manufacture and distribute decent quality
music on any of the ROM technologies we have today and expect it to be
size, cost, and power-consumption competitive with other technologies
so I wouldn't expect to *literally* buy "music on a chip" any time soon.
Downloadable music formats that are stored in portable players with large
amounts of flash memory (or some other type of non-volatile writable
memory) are available now, however, and we'll find out shortly whether or
not the market will embrace them under the current cost, size, and battery-
life levels..
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scott
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response 107 of 126:
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Feb 1 12:15 UTC 1999 |
The Rio *is* "music on a chip". It is a AA-battery run device that is just
a little bigger than a cassette, and uses digital music downloaded from a PC.
As far music permanently burned into a chip, why bother? Downloadable music
will be *much* cheaper to manufacture and distribute.
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