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naftee
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response 83 of 186:
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Jan 21 04:24 UTC 2006 |
I'll still call him a gay knob
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bhelliom
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response 84 of 186:
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Jan 21 15:24 UTC 2006 |
resp:68 - I'm basing my findings on the experiences of other African
Americans studying in Europe, as well as research on the status of
minorities in European countries. As for the case of my friends, it
didn't matter that they had a facility with the language of the coutry
in which they were based. On a few occassions, they were told that they
would not be served at a restaurant they would select for a meal. I
have no problem with traveling to Europe and finding out for myself, I
just feel that I'd have less of a chance making something of myself
across the pond than I would here.
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bhelliom
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response 85 of 186:
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Jan 21 15:28 UTC 2006 |
'Blatant anti-semitism is often later excused as "cheap shots."'
Whose is that in response to, klg? I'm trying to find somehting from
recent user posts, and I can't find anything.
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slynne
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response 86 of 186:
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Jan 21 17:00 UTC 2006 |
re: racism in Europe. It probably depends on the country too. I have
some African American friends who went to Germany with me and they found
that people were shocked to see them because there simply were not *any*
black people where we were (Hamburg). I dont think anyone outright
treated them badly but people stared a lot. I have had African American
friends describe similar experiences in Sweden and Denmark.
In countries like France and England where there are a lot of black
immigrants, things might be different.
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twenex
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response 87 of 186:
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Jan 21 17:04 UTC 2006 |
I suspect an African American would be shunned these days in Europe not for
being African, but for being American.
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nharmon
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response 88 of 186:
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Jan 21 17:20 UTC 2006 |
Oh brother.
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bhelliom
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response 89 of 186:
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Jan 21 17:22 UTC 2006 |
resp:87 - It's certainly very likely, or at the very least would not be
surprising.
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keesan
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response 90 of 186:
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Jan 21 18:33 UTC 2006 |
A Sudanese neighbor of mine in a dorm in Macedonia, dental student who fixed
one of my teeth when I was a student there, married a Macedonian woman and
they were planning to move to Germany because they would be treated normally
there. A Polish roommate of mine married to a Nigerian student in Warsaw said
she could not go to the store with him because people would assume she was
a prostitute, and they were planning to move to his country after graduation.
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richard
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response 91 of 186:
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Jan 21 19:32 UTC 2006 |
slynne wrote in #86:
"In countries like France and England where there are a lot of black
immigrants, things might be different.
Have you been to France or watched the news about there recently? They
are having race riots in France, bad ones. France has long welcomed
the citizens of their former French African colonies to move there, and
now France is very multi-ethnic in certain areas, and a certain segment
of the locals DO NOT like it. There's as much racism in Europe as
there is in America, lets not kid ourselves.
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naftee
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response 92 of 186:
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Jan 21 21:42 UTC 2006 |
racism in france is due to long-standing French families feeling alienated
by the new immigrants. don't forget that the people who started the fires
were younger, second generation immigrant-french citizens.
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slynne
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response 93 of 186:
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Jan 21 22:34 UTC 2006 |
As it happens, I have both been to France and have heard the news about
the riots in the Paris suburbs. That is why I said that things in France
*might* be different. There is hostility in France towards black African
immigrants but that does not necessarily mean that such hostility would
apply to African-American tourists. I simply dont know if it would or
wouldnt.
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naftee
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response 94 of 186:
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Jan 22 02:58 UTC 2006 |
i've never been to france :(
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bhelliom
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response 95 of 186:
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Jan 22 06:07 UTC 2006 |
I suspect that the cases I know about may have been in part due to these
students being mistaken for Africans, but I don't recall my friends
making such an connection.
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albaugh
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response 96 of 186:
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Jan 23 21:36 UTC 2006 |
As a white when visiting the Philippines I get noticed, perhaps even stared
at, a lot, and frequently called Joe. That doesn't make Filipinos racist,
just naturally curious.
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tod
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response 97 of 186:
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Jan 23 23:12 UTC 2006 |
They don't get to see a nightlite that often.
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gull
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response 98 of 186:
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Jan 24 02:19 UTC 2006 |
Re resp:26: Well, considering that the religious right's chant has been
"No more Souters," and Bush really needs to give them a nod right now,
I think we at least have a pretty good idea of the kind of questions he
would ask a nominee before sending them to the Judicial Committee.
I'm not thrilled with the farce judicial hearings have become, where
people are transparently nominated based on their views on issues but
Senators aren't allowed to get answers about those views.
Re resp:32: I hope so. Though in my darker moments I worry that with
the courts decisively on the side of the conservatives, the odds of a
fair election have gone down considerably. The fix may be in.
Re resp:37: I'm actually curious who the Republicans will nominate for
2008, because to me there's no really obvious candidate. McCain looks
like the most likely, right now. He's recently made some effort to mend
his relationship with the religious right, which will be essential if
he's going to get the nomination.
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happyboy
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response 99 of 186:
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Jan 24 02:59 UTC 2006 |
condi "fancyboots" rice.
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mcnally
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response 100 of 186:
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Jan 24 03:12 UTC 2006 |
I can't believe McCain has any credibility left, having knuckled under
to the Bush camp that smeared him so abominably in the 2000 primaries,
but I seem to be one of the few who feel that way so perhaps he could
wind up being the nominee. I tend to doubt it, though, because despite
heroic (if that's the word) amounts of ass-kissing he still doesn't
seem to be well-thought of by the party apparatus.
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happyboy
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response 101 of 186:
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Jan 24 03:14 UTC 2006 |
the moderates like him ok, not so the wingnuts who are in
power, so yeah.
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tod
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response 102 of 186:
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Jan 24 07:41 UTC 2006 |
re #99
I dont think the good ol boys have the guts to put Condi out there.
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happyboy
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response 103 of 186:
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Jan 24 09:13 UTC 2006 |
"she may be a nigra, but she's OWR nigra!"
--trent lott
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tod
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response 104 of 186:
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Jan 24 18:02 UTC 2006 |
"We's gots us a token prezdunt"
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gull
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response 105 of 186:
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Jan 24 19:10 UTC 2006 |
Re resp:99: I don't think Condi has a chance of getting the nomination.
I'm pretty sure she's on the record of being pro-choice, so she fails
the single most important litmus test.
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gull
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response 106 of 186:
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Jan 24 19:10 UTC 2006 |
On the record *as* being pro-choice, that is.
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klg
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response 107 of 186:
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Jan 24 20:10 UTC 2006 |
Miss Rice: I believe if you go back to 2000, when I helped the
president in the campaign, I said that I was, in effect, kind of
Libertarian on this issue, and meaning by that that I have been
concerned about a government role in this issue. I'm a strong proponent
of parental choice, of parental notification. I'm a strong proponent of
a ban on late-term abortion. These are all things that I think unite
people and I think that that's where we should be. I've called myself
at times mildly pro-choice.
Mr. Sammon: That was the phrase that kept coming up.
Miss Rice: Yeah, mildly pro-choice. That's what that means. I think
that there are a lot of things that we can unite around, and that's
where I would tend to be. I'm very comfortable with the president's
view that we have to respect and need to have a culture that respects
life. This should be an issue pretty infrequently because we ought to
have a culture that says that, "Who wants to have an abortion? Who
wants to see a daughter or a friend or, you know, a sibling go through
something like that?" And so I believe the president has been in
exactly the right place about this, which is, we have to respect the
culture of life and we have to try and bring people to have respect for
it and make this as rare a circumstance as possible.
Mr. Sammon: The only reason I even brought it up was because there
is a school of thought that says that no conservative Republican can be
elected president if they are not firmly pro-life. I know you haven't
ruled anything in or out but...
Miss Rice: I'm not trying to be elected.
Mr. Sammon: But it sounds like you do not wish to change the laws
that now allow ...
Miss Rice: Well, I don't spend my entire life thinking about these
issues. You know, I spend my time really thinking about the foreign
policy issues. But you know that I'm a deeply religious person and so,
from my point of view, these extremely difficult moral issues where we
have where we're facing issues with technology and the prolongation
of life and the fact that very, very young babies are able to survive
now very small babies are able to survive these are great moral
issues.
What I do think is that we should not have the federal government
in a position where it is forcing its views on one side or the other.
So, for instance, I've tended to agree with those who do not favor
federal funding for abortion, because I believe that those who hold a
strong moral view on the other side should not be forced to fund it.
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