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kingjon
response 83 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 02:48 UTC 2006

I've tried out Pine, and it a) appears to have some features I could definitely
use but b) still has the (IMO) counterproductive interface. I've now installed
it (along with mh) on my Linux box.

keesan
response 84 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 13:15 UTC 2006

Have you tried mutt?
jep
response 85 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 13:26 UTC 2006

Is there a way to download an image file in Lynx?
keesan
response 86 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 13:32 UTC 2006

Go to that link and type D and then decide where to save it to.
kingjon
response 87 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 14:11 UTC 2006

Re #84: Yes, but I had even more trouble with it. Pine is usable, just
backwards in the way the user has to do things; Mutt I couldn't even get to
work.

jep
response 88 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 15:44 UTC 2006

re resp:86: Thanks, Sindi!
keesan
response 89 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 20:17 UTC 2006

Try reading the instructions for mutt.  It worked for me on my computer.  At
grex it kept moving all my mail to some other place on exit.
kingjon
response 90 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 20:27 UTC 2006

Re #89: I followed what instructions I had. (IIRC this was in some point when I
was on the residence hall network here but for some reason was using
BasicLinux.) What I *wanted* to do was set it up to connect to the college mail
server (which uses IMAP) like Evolution or other graphical mail clients would,
but I couldn't get it to work at all.

keesan
response 91 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 22:28 UTC 2006

I don't think Mutt does IMAP, but Pine does.
tod
response 92 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 22:33 UTC 2006

mutt did/does IMAP ever since version 1.4
in your .muttrc
mailboxes = imap://hostname/mailbox
I have several pop and imap setting for my mailbox variable in mutt...
keesan
response 93 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 02:00 UTC 2006

Can you teach jon to use mutt?
tod
response 94 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 05:30 UTC 2006

can i teach an old mutt trick?  nyuk nyuk
jep
response 95 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 20:47 UTC 2006

re resp:86: I can't point to the picture I want to download (in Lynx).  
When I use "D" it saves a .gz file so I think I am not pointing at the 
image correctly.  Are there images on some pages which cannot be viewed?
albaugh
response 96 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 20:50 UTC 2006

If mutt doesn't work, try jeff
mcnally
response 97 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 21:44 UTC 2006

 re #95:  a .gz file is probably compressed with gzip.
jep
response 98 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 14:05 UTC 2006

Yep.  It was a gzip-compressed file.  The contents were not an image.
rcurl
response 99 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 20:07 UTC 2006

My Deskwriter 540 seems to have died. I would like to get a replacement 
inkjet printer that will print only black, or if it can also print color 
will work without a color cartridge in it, and uses a black cartridge that 
can be refilled. Neither of these specs are noted in the descriptions of 
any printers I have looked at on online merchants.

It must also work with Macs....although this is generally true of all 
printers with USB interfaces. (An ethernet interface would be even better, 
but printers with those seem to be pretty pricey.)

A laser printer isn't out of the question but an inkjet is most 
satisfactory and certainly cheaper.

Any suggestions?



mcnally
response 100 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 20:51 UTC 2006

 First, re-evaluate your assumption that an inkjet is cheaper based on
 how much you expect to print.  If you shop carefully many laser printers
 can be had for under $100, and many under $200.  Their cost per printed
 page is usually *much* lower than inkjets, so if you intent to print
 regularly and really only want black & white you should probably select
 a laser printer.

 That said, if you go inkjet, be forewarned that the inkjet market has
 changed remarkably in the past 5-10 years.  It used to be that Hewlett-
 Packard was the gold standard of printer reliability and compatibility
 but they abandoned that some years back to concentrate on maximizing
 their revenue from the printer division at the expense of reliability
 and customer convenience.  I wouldn't buy one of their inkjets these
 days and if you choose one you'll certainly have difficulty refilling
 ink cartridges as one of the few technological innovations HP has 
 introduced in recent years is circuitry in the cartridges that allows
 the printer to detect when the ink level has risen in a particular
 cartridge and then refuse to print using that cartridge again.

 I have a Canon inkjet that I use occasionally for running off quick
 and not-intended-to-last photo prints to send to friends and family.
 It works well, but I'm not an especially demanding customer so I'm
 not sure I can say much more about it than that.

 My understanding is that at the current time Epson printers are the
 most refill friendly of the recent brands and they're reasonably well
 thought of.  I'd probably steer you in that direction, but if refillability
 is your goal why not ask Steve Whipple (login id charcat) who works
 for a business in Ann Arbor that refills inkjet printer cartridges?


rcurl
response 101 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 21:20 UTC 2006

(He might no like it that I refill my own cartridges....  8^})
I appreciate your comments on inkjets vs laser printers. I'd still like to
know of an inkjet that will print black without a color cartridge in it.
I can check refillability on the ink supply online merchants. 
rcurl
response 102 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 21:40 UTC 2006

I checked on cheap laser printers and found a Brother HL-2040 Laser 
Printer for $70 (after rebate....). What does anyone think of that as a 
reliable model? Also, while it has a USB 2 interface, the description says 
"Optional network Etnerhet and wireless print servers are available as 
well.". Since I have two Macs on an Ethernet LAN, and the LAN linked to a 
WiFi base, what are my options for operating such a printer on the 
network for both computers?
nharmon
response 103 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 21:53 UTC 2006

Amazon.com has always served well for finding out how good a product is:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007IFVJK/sr=8-1/qid=1140990636

nharmon
response 104 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 21:54 UTC 2006

Woops, hit "post" too fast. Check out the customer reviews. Those people
can be BRUTAL if the product is no good. :)
mcnally
response 105 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 22:40 UTC 2006

 > Also, while it has a USB 2 interface, the description says "Optional
 > network Etnerhet and wireless print servers are available as well.".
 > Since I have two Macs on an Ethernet LAN, and the LAN linked to a
 > WiFi base, what are my options for operating such a printer on the
 > network for both computers?

 Your options, in increasing order of cost:

   1)  Hook the printer up via USB to one of the Macs and have the
       Mac share the printer with other computers on your network.

       Cost:      $5 ($0 if you already have a USB printer cable.)
       Drawback:  Printer will only operate when the computer it's
                  hooked up to is turned on.


   2)  Buy a 3rd-party USB/ethernet print spooler device.  
    
       Cost:      $30-70
       Drawback:  Might not support less-frequently-used features
                  of the printer driver, (e.g. ability to select
                  manual paper feed, etc..)

   3)  Buy the manufacturer's printer-specific network adaptor.

       Cost:      ???
       Drawback:  see cost..
charcat
response 106 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 22:57 UTC 2006

epsons are probably the easiest to refill, but they have a chip on them
that has to be reset or they won't work, they can be reset up to about
10 times. I haven't heard of any problems with hp printers refusing to
print with refilled carts. but they will keep telling you they are
empty, just ignore it. The laser is probably the cheapest way to go but
you probably won't be able to refill it yourself (very messy). All
inkjet cartridges with the printhead on them can only be refilled up to
7 times usually, the printhead wears out eventually. Some hp printers
that use the hp56 (I think) cartridges will work with only one cartridge
installed.
keesan
response 107 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 23:16 UTC 2006

Kiwanis got in an Apple laser printer this week and probably has others.  PC
laser printers are priced $30.  I presume you have to have something that will
print with Mac not PC.
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