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richard
response 82 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 15:27 UTC 2006

Is love, or infatuation, as some scientists suggest, possibly a chemical
reaction in the brain that makes you respond in a certain way to a certain
person?  Something that one day could be controlled by the right drug.  The
mythical "love pill" or "love potion">?
jadecat
response 83 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 15:41 UTC 2006

re resp:62 - nope, that would not be an accurate statement for his first
marriage. The details of which I'm not going to go into. 
kingjon
response 84 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 16:49 UTC 2006

Re resp:81 last paragraph: In a math class at the University of Illinois
 (Urbana-Champaign) (second-semester calculus).
marcvh
response 85 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 17:08 UTC 2006

There exist real religious minorities whose norms with respect to love
and marriage are countercultural and are not accommodated by mainstream
society.  If the speaker were, say, a Hasidic Jew (or some other
adherent of arranged marriages) or a Mormon polygamist, then I could
accept the notion that it's countercultural.  But abstinence before
marriage is hardly countercultural -- indeed its a sufficiently 
mainstream view that we dont have to wonder what would happen if it
were promoted more aggressively (namely, teenagers having lots of oral
sex.)
rcurl
response 86 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 17:53 UTC 2006

Re #82: all human reactions are some sort of "chemical reaction in the 
brain that makes you respond in a certain way". Existing "love potions" 
include pheromones emitted by others. Of course, there is also a lot of 
conscious control of the unconscious responses. But what it comes down to 
is the "sex drive" modified by circumstances and culture.

edina
response 87 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 17:55 UTC 2006

If love is simply in your head, why did it literally feel like my heart was
breaking when I was splitting with my ex?
rcurl
response 88 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 18:03 UTC 2006

Your brain has lots of control over your body. That's how gory scenes might
make people puke, extreme duress might trigger heart attacks, and emotional
distress cause numerous sensations and responses. 
tod
response 89 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 18:05 UTC 2006

Jesus Juice
edina
response 90 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 18:09 UTC 2006

Re 88  I of course know this.  I was simply trying to point out that it's not
as "black and white" or "scientific" as it's being made to seem.
tod
response 91 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 18:12 UTC 2006

Reducing everything to science is a cop-out from reality, imo.
jep
response 92 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 18:35 UTC 2006

There's nothing wrong with explaining emotions through science, but 
explaining them doesn't change anything.  They still have a great 
impact on us all, and they are still very real.
tod
response 93 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 18:40 UTC 2006

Shutup dummy


 ;)
kingjon
response 94 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 18:43 UTC 2006

Re #85: If necessary, adjust my definition of "countercultural" to be "against
the current the culture seems to be following." I have mostly made friends with
people of similar views to mine, but the statistics on the numbers of people
having sex before marriage -- and on the number of divorces -- belies the idea
that my view is in the mainstream.

rcurl
response 95 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 19:14 UTC 2006

Again, I agree with jep (re #92), and that is what I was driving at. 
mcnally
response 96 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 19:39 UTC 2006

 re #94:  Although believing in a distorted version of our culture may give
 you a cheap thrill when you ponder what a rebel you are, you need to stop
 conflating distorted media depictions of American culture with the actual
 culture itself (even assuming there is such a thing as a single monolithic
 "American culture.")
kingjon
response 97 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 19:46 UTC 2006

As I said, I wish my position wasn't countercultural, but *given the
statistics* for the things my position excludes (divorce, premarital sex, etc.)
I don't see how it can fit any definition of what our culture believes.

marcvh
response 98 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 19:49 UTC 2006

#94: what you're seeing is not a split between your view and the
mainstream, but rather a split between what people say and what they 
actually do.
cyklone
response 99 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 19:59 UTC 2006

Re #96: Couldn't have said it better myself. Klingon also must not be 
looking at his statistics too carefully. While divorce is certainly not 
uncommon, it appears he's fallen for the "half of all marriages end in 
divorce" myth, which I believe has been debunked here on Grex before.

Even among his peer group, the latest statistics are that over one third 
of his classmates will graduate without having intercourse. That's a 
pretty large minority, certainly larger than any of the other 
"traditional" minorities nationwide.
kingjon
response 100 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 20:12 UTC 2006

Also look at survey results (which I don't have -- I could only speculate) for
how these statistics are percieved ("unfortunate" or "an outrage"?) and, more
importantly, *which way they are going* (are they increasing or decreasing?) --
these are more "the culture" than the current statistics.

marcvh
response 101 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 20:38 UTC 2006

Your attempt to get other people to do your homework is noted.  Does
Cavlin block its students from accessing google or something?

But, OK, let's accept for the sake of argument that you are a tiny
minority, like Hasidic Jews, and that the majority is constantly
assailing you with values which you find wrong and offensive.  Given
that this is a democratic society, what are the public policy
implications?  Should the government be promoting things like abstinence
education which are (according to you) against the values of the vast
majority of Americans?
kingjon
response 102 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 20:47 UTC 2006

Recall that I don't *want* my views to be contrary to the tide of the culture.
If they aren't, so much the better -- the nation will last longer.

marcvh
response 103 of 104: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 20:51 UTC 2006

Is that a "yes" or a "no"?
wilt
response 104 of 104: Mark Unseen   May 16 23:52 UTC 2006

HACKED BY GNAA LOL JEWS DID WTC LOL
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