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richard
response 81 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 15:28 UTC 1999

I dont really want to set up .yeswrite or .nowrite files because I dont
mind getting tels, and it feels anitsocial in this environment to be
using such files.  I just want to permanently block any !talk requests
because anybody !talking me should really be !teling me, and I have
rarely ever had somebody !talking me from offsite.  there isnt a way
to do that?
pfv
response 82 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 15:57 UTC 1999

        Damn, that's racist and antisocial - you should let EVERYONE tel &
        talk to you! At *ALL* times!

        Sheesh..
richard
response 83 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 16:28 UTC 1999

its not racist, I dont mind if an Indian user !tels me-- some of them
are nice-- I just dont want to turn off !tels just because I want to
turn of !talk
pfv
response 84 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 17:12 UTC 1999

        Separationist!
omni
response 85 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 17:30 UTC 1999

  I'm getting sick of being constantly !tel'ed and talked. I come to grex to
do chat and I damn well aint going to start now. Wanna talk to me, send me
an e-mail
remmers
response 86 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 17:35 UTC 1999

I think being able to turn off talk requests without turning off tel's
would be reasonable.  I'd email janc about it - he's the
author/maintainer of the write/tel stuff.
gull
response 87 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 22:26 UTC 1999

At very least, someone should hack the 'talk' source so it only pages you
*once*, instead of repeatedly.  It's a very rude program.
pfv
response 88 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 22:33 UTC 1999

        It's garb- errr.. "it's not a problem" .."it's not an issue"
drewmike
response 89 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 02:35 UTC 1999

(Hey, did anyone else notice that Peefv never mentioned any specific
ethnicity, which Richard instantly pegged as Indian? Hell's yeah, I still got
the instigator in me...)
mooncat
response 90 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 12:41 UTC 1999

It may not be a probelm or an issue, but I would like to be able to turn
 !talk off completely... I never use the program, and I don't like it.

pfv
response 91 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 14:51 UTC 1999

        Gee, youse guys make it sound like it's your RIGHT to control 
        the contents of yer CRT..

        (while you are modding, set it up like bbs or party: user defined
        filter-insertion)
gelinas
response 92 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 01:17 UTC 1999

Edit your .login file and make sure it has the lines

        setenv MESG mesg
        mesg n

If you change your mind, change that final character to a "y".
davel
response 93 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 01:47 UTC 1999

... or just do "mesg y" on the fly to change it for one session.
gelinas
response 94 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 03:22 UTC 1999

I wish I could backspace at the login: and password: prompts.  And I'm
not all that bad a typist.
gull
response 95 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 04:33 UTC 1999

You have a problem with your terminal settings.  Your backspace key is
probably set to send ^?, while login expects ^H.
gelinas
response 96 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 04:49 UTC 1999

Nope.  I can solve *that* problem.  But when I do, grex reports, "Not allowed
to modify login" or words to that effect.  And my terminal sends <CTRL>H,
which gets displayed as "^H", of course.
gelinas
response 97 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 04:57 UTC 1999

Here 'tis:

} (ttyr6) grex login: gelasdfk^?^H^?^?^?^H^H^H^H^H^H^?^?^?^?^?^?
} You may not change $L0
} gelas's Password:

Hmmm... This gives me an idea.
gelinas
response 98 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 05:01 UTC 1999

That did it:

} login: abcd^H^H^H^Hgelinas
} gelinas's Password:

So I just have to carefully count how many <CTRL>Hs I need.
mdw
response 99 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 10:32 UTC 1999

If you type whitespace on the login line, the extra parameters get
converted to environment variables L0, L1, etc.  Login checks for
various extraneous environment variables (such as LD_LIBRARY_PATH) that
have security implications, and rejects them.  It uses the pattern L*,
which has the side-effect of rejecting L0,L1 as well.  It might not be
obvious, but L0, L1 do have security implications -- sometimes people
who fat finger their password manage to get it into the login prompt,
and we don't want to export passwords or parts thereof into the
environment.
jep
response 100 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 13:46 UTC 1999

I use ^U if I make a mistake on the login: or password: line, then I 
re-type it.  It works great.
scott
response 101 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 13:59 UTC 1999

(Control-U is "erase line" in UNIX)
janc
response 102 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 15:39 UTC 1999

I don't understand why login can't treat *both* ^H and ^? as delete
characters when logins and passwords are being entered.  That seems the
only sane solution.  Only catch is that the change over would annoy
anyone whose password includes a ^?, but any such person pretty much
deserves it.
janc
response 103 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 15:41 UTC 1999

Oh, and I agree that there should be a way to turn off talk requests
seperately from write/tel requests.  Someone who has a couple days free
should write this sometime.
mooncat
response 104 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 16:22 UTC 1999

Back there for the person who suggested 'mesg n' for the .login file...
Doesn't that turn off *all* messages?  I don't want that.  I like
tels, and I tend to talk to many people at once via tels while
in party or something.  What I don't like, or use is !talk... 

other
response 105 of 292: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 19:39 UTC 1999

if i remember correctly, the manual for mesg or for nowrite/yeswrite includes
a flag to select between tel/talk/chat/all requests.  i have a yeswrite file
and am flagged for tels only.
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