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marcvh
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response 8 of 96:
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Jan 10 19:29 UTC 2006 |
It's untrue that Michigan is the only place where it's called "pop."
See www.popvssoda.com for statistics; briefly, it's called "pop" across most
of the northern US from Buffalo to Portland, "soda" in the Northeast,
Southwest, and around St Louis, and "coke" in the south.
It's always seemed kind of silly that they call it a "party store"
instead of what it is, liquor store. I remember that Meijer used to
call it the "Party Pantry" which seemed even more nondescriptive. I
suppose that if hard drugs were legalized they would come up with some
nicer phrase for "crack store."
IGA stands for I Get Annoyed.
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tod
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response 9 of 96:
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Jan 10 19:34 UTC 2006 |
We always said party store and that would mean a place that sold snacks,
booze, magazines, lottery, and sometimes grocery items.
I've got several friends where I grew up that are still running some.
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marcvh
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response 10 of 96:
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Jan 10 19:42 UTC 2006 |
So what do you call a store that sells hats, streamers, noisemakers and
the like? A "party supply store"?
Another regional variation I haven't seen studied as much is how people
refer to freeway names in casual conversation. If you're talking about
Interstate 17, what do you call it?
Michigan: "Eye 17"
Washington: "17"
Southern California: "The 17"
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kingjon
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response 11 of 96:
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Jan 10 20:15 UTC 2006 |
I'd be interested in knowing what all the other classes of roads are called. As
I learned (in Michigan), a United States Highway would be "You-Ess-17", while a
Michigan state highway would be just "17."
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gull
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response 12 of 96:
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Jan 10 20:19 UTC 2006 |
Re resp:8: To me, the term "liquor store" suggests a store that sells
*only* liquor, like the state-run "LIQUOR & WINE" stores here in
Washington. A party store is more like a cross between a liquor store
and a convenience store.
Re resp:11: A state highway in Michigan is usually referred to with its
M-prefex, such as "M-17". I sometimes heard major highways of all
classes truncated to just the number, but not very often. Detroit
seems to be unique in the state in referring to highways by name
instead of number. ("The Fisher," "The Lodge," etc.) I don't think I
ever heard "the" used before a number, though. Californians refer to
"the 5" but I don't think I ever heard a Michigander refer to "the 75"
or "the 696".
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edina
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response 13 of 96:
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Jan 10 20:23 UTC 2006 |
Hmmm..I refer to Loop 202 as "The 202". Same way as I referred to "The
Beltway" - not 95/495.
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mcnally
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response 14 of 96:
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Jan 10 20:47 UTC 2006 |
re #11, 12: I'm used to using the "M" before Michigan highway names,
too, e.g. "M-120"
Yet another regional linguistic signifier -- how one talks about businesses
that share people's surnames. For some reason it never seemed odd to me to
go shopping at Meijers (or is that "Meijer's"?) but it was very weird to hear
my co-workers at the auto company talk about working "at Fords" (or perhaps
"at Ford's")
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tod
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response 15 of 96:
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Jan 10 20:51 UTC 2006 |
re #10
So what do you call a store that sells hats, streamers, noisemakers and
the like? A "party supply store"?
Brokeback Mountain KnickKnack Shack
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jadecat
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response 16 of 96:
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Jan 10 20:55 UTC 2006 |
There's a whole website devoted to how people from Michigan talk:
http://www.michigannative.com/ma_home.shtml
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tod
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response 17 of 96:
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Jan 10 21:05 UTC 2006 |
That's an awesome website. Love it ta death!
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marcvh
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response 18 of 96:
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Jan 10 21:10 UTC 2006 |
Re #11: I think that "route" is more common. Nobody sings "Get your kicks
on you ess sixty-six."
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tod
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response 19 of 96:
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Jan 10 21:19 UTC 2006 |
We were always taught to say the name of the road rather than the number
unless it was an Interstate which was built during Eisenhower.
You didn't say M3, you said Gratiot.
And with Interstate, you'd say just the number: 696, 75..exception being I-94
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naftee
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response 20 of 96:
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Jan 10 21:32 UTC 2006 |
it's called 'pop' in canada.
god damnit. don't you guys know canadian english is the only english that
counts ?!
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kingjon
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response 21 of 96:
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Jan 10 21:46 UTC 2006 |
Re: 12, 14:
Perhaps I'm just thinking of a particular highway, or just mis-remembering.
Re #18: I've heard of Rte. 66 as that, but nothing else. (And "you ess" is just
"U.S." spelled out to make it clear.)
Re #19: Most numbered roads I know of I don't know of any name for. And with
Interstates the only time I *wouldn't* say the "I" is with three-digit ones,
maybe.
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marcvh
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response 22 of 96:
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Jan 10 22:00 UTC 2006 |
There are some places where "Route" doesn't distinguish between a U.S. route
and a state route, true.
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bhoward
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response 23 of 96:
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Jan 11 02:18 UTC 2006 |
Re#16 Jadecat, thanks for the link. That site is soooo funny. I've
always had a bit of a confused accent and vocab from moving around
so much but I didn't realize how much the effect Michigan and the
midwest had had on it.
I recently was listening through some old tapes from my radio shows
(WCBN) recorded just before I moved from Ann Arbor and I couldn't
believe how strong a midwest accent I had picked up by then. I
compared it to a more recent recording and it seems much of the
accent is gone but a lot of the regional vocabulary lingers on.
Caught myself using frigerraider and GROSHries this morning.
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rcurl
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response 24 of 96:
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Jan 11 05:41 UTC 2006 |
Even though I've lived in Michigan for some time I still don't know the names
for the Interstates through Detroit. I visualize them as I-94, 96, 75,
375...etc. How far out from Detroit do the names get dropped? (Is there a sign
saying "you are now leaving the Dodge freeway"? - if there is a Dodge.)
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marcvh
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response 25 of 96:
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Jan 11 05:51 UTC 2006 |
That sign would be located in the extreme southwest part of Detroit,
namely Omaha.
The main purpose of the names is for natives to recognize each other;
someone who has lived in Michigan "for some time" isn't supposed to
know them.
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mcnally
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response 26 of 96:
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Jan 11 06:46 UTC 2006 |
If you think Detroit is bad with the freeway names, try Chicago.
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fitz
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response 27 of 96:
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Jan 11 10:08 UTC 2006 |
#10, #15. Kent Novelty Supplies is just such a specialized shop, but every
card shop seems to have birthday/seasonal party supplies as well.
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slynne
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response 28 of 96:
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Jan 11 10:44 UTC 2006 |
The only freeway names for freeways in Detroit that I use are "the
Lodge", "the Jeffries", "The Southfield", and "The Davison"
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klg
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response 29 of 96:
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Jan 11 11:49 UTC 2006 |
Soutfield and Davison were city streets before they became limited
access highways. (Both of them are stil partially city streets.)
You were never on the Detroit Industrial Highway? The Chrysler?
American Veterans Highway? Morris Adler Highway?
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mary
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response 30 of 96:
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Jan 11 12:24 UTC 2006 |
The Ford (94) and the Chrysler (75) and the Lodge (96) are the
Big Three. Next new expressway should be named the Honda. ;-)
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fudge
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response 31 of 96:
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Jan 11 14:10 UTC 2006 |
State-run booze shops???? WTF???
Makes me shiver.
You mean the US is actually a federation of communist states??
brr....
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bhoward
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response 32 of 96:
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Jan 11 14:45 UTC 2006 |
Actually, policy on how alchohol may be sold varies on a per-state
basis.
My folks used to live in CT which (at least at the time) only allowed
alchohol (or maybe it was just hard liquor) to be sold at state run
stores that closed by 8pm or so.
It was extremely freaky when I came home from MI for holiday to not
be able to find any place other than a bar to get a beer after 8pm.
Though not as freaky as the dry counties I encountered in Arkinsas.
Most freaky were the weird drinking hours I encountered living in
the UK. Apparently they were holdovers leftover from WWII to keep
the factory workers from showing up drunk at munitions plants and
blowing themselves up. I had mixed feelings though, when they were
repealed shortly before we moved to Japan...something was lost when
we no longer had our weekly session during the Sunday afternoon
lock-ins at our favorite pub.
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