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vidar
response 8 of 24: Mark Unseen   Jun 20 13:22 UTC 2003

I avoid "reality" TV shows like the plague they are.  There's hardly 
any reality to them.
jaklumen
response 9 of 24: Mark Unseen   Jun 20 22:47 UTC 2003

resp:7 well, the difference could be a matter of psychology vs. 
neurology.  There has been at least one study that I have heard of 
that would suggest sex addiction can be as powerful as cocaine 
addiction-- that the hormones released during orgasm could be 
addictive.  Yes, I agree that fetishes, exhibitionism, and voyeurism 
probably occupy complex facets of psychological behavior and can't 
easily be lumped together.

I would suppose SA and the like are an approach to modifying what are 
seen as insufficient mechanisms of coping.  I'll take something my 
psychiatrist believes: some of it could be identity issues, that is, 
someone isn't really secure with their sense of self, isn't sure of 
who they are, and various aspects of addiction, carrying anything to 
excess that 'feels good,' may enter the picture.

Take what is currently known as co-dependency.  Such a person puts the 
needs of another before themself, may be vulnerable to manipulation, 
may be prone to enmeshment, because self-identity is insecure.  Self 
decisions are scary and it is much easier to feel worth in someone in 
trying to help someone who may not be mentally well themselves.

Even dominance and submission cannot be drawn under clear lines of 
sanity; one has clearly forfeited control.  Some have theorized this 
enables such individuals to relieve guilt about sex (as they do not 
have the control).  It should be admitted that there are at least deep 
psychological assumptions in such roles.

I have never been comfortable with using any aspect of sexuality as a 
label; it seems to confine and constrict.  I do have fairly 
established views that it can be shaped and modified; and sometimes I 
am curious why it is sometimes so much a part of people's identities.

resp:8 "Reality" TV is a bit of a misnomer, and I think it's really a 
part of its marketing.  Perhaps a better word would 
be "improvisational".  It's not totally freeform, but rather, certain 
parameters are set, and then the cast is set to move on those 
parameters.  It's not scripted.

There is a certain premise in the theme, and the producers are pretty 
free to control the cast members as they choose (change the lineup, 
occasionally make plot decisions, etc.)  This was pretty apparent in 
MTV's offerings (and you could see producers pretty much admit it), so 
there shouldn't be much surprise in hearing that Joe Millionaire 
wasn't really interested in any of the ladies and that the producers 
decided to pick for him for the most part.

There seems to be a trend to deconstruct the mass media.  People love 
watching behind the scenes documentaries about movies, to the point 
that they often want to know about the movie magic at about the same 
time the movie is released.  Perhaps the commentary on the Gong Show 
is true: "Reality" TV is media entertainment turned on its head, 
inspired by the old show.  We see E! Hollywood Story and VH1 Behind 
The Music and revel in celebrities that burnt out on fortune and 
fame.  We see Anna Nicole Smith, the anti-Marilyn Monroe-- real 
silicone, real self-destruction, real pathetic.  We want to see 
celebrities and average joes switch places somehow-- I could have 
sworn "I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here" was almost a game show, 
and we want to see everyday folks play out the Hollywood love story 
and life of a pop star, but with less script and more spontaneity.  
The formulas are about the same.

This so oddly seems like a "Gee, I wonder what my life would be like 
as a television show?" and "What if celebrities were more like me?" 
(i.e. I wanna see them without the glitz and glamour)  An odd trading 
places, as it were.  But it seems to be like life imitating art, and 
of course, in the case of love, it's got a plastic feel to it.

michaela
response 10 of 24: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 04:14 UTC 2003

I can't stand any of the above.  I rarely turn on the TV anymore.  All of
these "reality" shows and E! Insider things seem to pander to the people whose
lives are so empty and boring that they have to talk about what Demi Moore
wore the other day or which money-grabbing bimbo some frat-boy loser will
pick.  I can almost feel my brain leaking out my ears.
jazz
response 11 of 24: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 05:47 UTC 2003

        Demi Moore isn't a whore.  I've heard that before, and I think that
people are confusing her persona for the personas she's played in movies.

        The whole sex addiction thing just seems like it's too much glossing
over of too many different and unrelated things, to me.  I don't think you
could seriously treat, say, ADD and Asperger's if you lumped them together,
and I don't think you can treat codependency and masochistic tendencies if
you lump them together.

        One of the best yardsticks I've seen in terms of whether something is
a mental illness or not is the social functioning of the person in question.
Most BDSM enthusiasts I know are perfectly well adapted, and have partners
with compatible interests.  It's present at some level in all sexuality, too,
and in all relationships, the idea of control and gaining or relinquishing
it.
orinoco
response 12 of 24: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 05:53 UTC 2003

In other words:

"It's not that people who talk about 'sex addiction' are lying, or that
they're delusional.  It's just that 'sex addiction' is a big vague
category. It probably makes sense to split it up into a few smaller, more
specific categories before you try to come to any conclusions." 

Would that be a fair way to put it?

jazz
response 13 of 24: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 13:34 UTC 2003

        It goes a little further than that.  It's enough to say that the
diagnosis of "sex addiction" is like "ADD" used to be a couple of years ago,
fluffy and an overly popular diagnosis.
mynxcat
response 14 of 24: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 15:24 UTC 2003

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jazz
response 15 of 24: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 18:15 UTC 2003

        Kutchner, I think?
mynxcat
response 16 of 24: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 18:23 UTC 2003

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kip
response 17 of 24: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 18:55 UTC 2003

And with his work in MTV's "Punk'd", "Dude, Where's My Car?" and "Just
Married", I would guess they would reinforce that impression.  They surely
reinforce mine. 

Or he's a really good actor.  One has to wonder.  He was majoring in 
biochemical engineering at U of Iowa before he switched to modeling.
mynxcat
response 18 of 24: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 19:07 UTC 2003

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orinoco
response 19 of 24: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 20:48 UTC 2003

I think "doofus" was more accurate anyway.  

Re #13: Ah... but do you think that there is such a thing as legitimate ADD?
phenix
response 20 of 24: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 12:39 UTC 2003

dude. it's demi moore.
he's a 25 year old male, she's 40
women drool; over him, he prolly spent most of his life wacking to
her generation.
c'mon, what's the issue. let us all ho pe that our sex symbols look
that good at 40
mynxcat
response 21 of 24: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 14:55 UTC 2003

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michaela
response 22 of 24: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 17:21 UTC 2003

Um, I never said Demi Moore was a whore.  I said I don't care what she 
*wore* the other day.

:)
mynxcat
response 23 of 24: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 18:46 UTC 2003

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phenix
response 24 of 24: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 14:17 UTC 2003

no, ashton most likely wore her, unless he's into being fisted
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