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mcnally
response 79 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 00:16 UTC 2002

  Salon offers a decent interview with the plaintiffs in the upcoming
  Supreme Court copyright expiration case:

     http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/02/21/web_copyright/print.html
jaklumen
response 80 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 00:35 UTC 2002

resp:78  no no no no.. I do not even want anyone doing a cover of the 
tune that once was "Good Morning To You."  It's great when people pick 
alternate birthday songs when paying royalties is not desirable.  
Perhaps it is true that more people will come up with birthday songs 
once that all-too-familiar and often ill-sung (intentionally) ditty is 
public domain, but.. really.

Anyone interested in an item listing all the songs about birthdays 
that do not include "Happy Birthday"?  I somewhat think tpryan would 
have a handful of suggestions..
krj
response 81 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 04:04 UTC 2002

Some words from the copyright industry.  
 
In the Washington Post, Jack Valenti of the movie trade group MPAA
lays out his case for prohibiting computers which can copy files,
though he doesn't mention the SSSCA by name.  
      http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/174745.html
 
The RIAA issues its own press release on 2001 cd sales.  Their numbers 
don't tally precisely with Soundscan, possibly because the RIAA 
includes "club" sales.  But the basic outlook is the same.
 
The RIAA says it has a survey indicating that 23% of their customers bought
less music because they were downloading or making homemade CDs.
 
Units of recorded music shipped                     -10.3%
dollar value of those discs                          -4.1%
 
full-length CDs units shipped                        -6.4%
 
In analog formats, cassette sales fell 40%.  LP sales, however, increased.  :)

http://www.riaa.org
krj
response 82 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 15:28 UTC 2002

An entertaining Slashdot rant on the RIAA press release:
  http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/02/27/0213252
"RIAA Almost Down to Pre-Napster Revenues"

"Napster came out in 1999, and the Recording Industry Association
of America had two great revenue statements for that year and the next."

However, when Napster was crippled, CD sales fell.  
Causality would be very difficult to establish.
As was reported by the LA Times and logged earlier in one of these 
items, CD sales stopped rising and started to fall the very week 
Napster was forced to begin filtering.
(Slashdot links to an SFgate story with the same theme:
  http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/08
/05/PK220163.DTL     )

A number of followup writers mention that in most industries, falling 
sales generally lead to lower prices.  That hasn't happened yet in 
the CD business, despite promising news stories at the end of 2000
that the sales slump would certainly lead to lower prices.
 
Instead, the recording industry is behaving as if it is a regulated
public utility, guaranteed a return on investment no matter what its 
costs are.
jazz
response 83 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 16:51 UTC 2002

        ... and no matter what shape the economy's in.
other
response 84 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 17:42 UTC 2002

Good.  If they go bankrupt, then they can (and will) be replaced by 
larger numbers of smaller labels who lack the might to force their profit 
enforcement down our throats.
other
response 85 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 17:44 UTC 2002

(I speak as someone who does not buy CDs except directly from the artists 
-- with very rare exception -- and who actually might buy them if their 
pricing was reasonable.)
anderyn
response 86 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 18:32 UTC 2002

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krj
response 87 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 19:05 UTC 2002

A number of sources report that Senator Hollings opens hearing on the 
SSSCA proposal, which would criminalize the further production of 
every computer ever made to date, on Thursday.  The Valenti piece in the 
Washington Post (resp:81) is apparently a warmup pitch.
other
response 88 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 19:47 UTC 2002

I imagine the tech industry will put up a fight on this one.  If it goes
though, I wouldn't be opposed to calling for a general strike.
jazz
response 89 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 19:56 UTC 2002

        The proposal isn't viable.  There's just no way to make it work with
something truly programmable, and even if it becomes a severe felony to
manufacture software to bypass copy protection, it won't affect Europe and
Asia's manufacture.
mdw
response 90 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 08:22 UTC 2002

Oh, it's viable.  It would leave the US a 3rd world country though.
krj
response 91 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 18:16 UTC 2002

News reports are flying everywhere about Sen. Hollings' hearings 
on the SSSCA proposal.  Essentially it was arranged to be a lynching of 
the Intel executive, who was the only tech industry representative 
there; contrary to what was reported to be the usual protocol, the 
witnesses from the copyright industry were allowed plenty of scope to 
attack the witness from Intel.  Democratic senators are lined up 
solidly with the copyright industry.  
 
Slashdot's story has links which cover most of the ground.
     http://slashdot.org/articles/02/03/01/1423248.shtml?tid=103
 
The CBS Marketwatch coverage stressed Sen. Hollings' insistance 
that the proposal to disable copying in all PCs *will* be implemented.

http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7BCC92A3EB%2DB59F%2D41F6%2D
840C%2D4D224E765A2E%7D&siteid=mktw

A discouraging mailing list item written by Mike Godwin, who was 
at the hearing:
     http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200202/msg00273.html

> I was in the hearing room, and I thought Vadasz's testimony made
> important points. But the senators were not terribly receptive to his
> arguments, and in fact came close to (effectively) ordering the IT
> industry simply to comply with Hollywood's demands (or else they'd be
> forced to by legislation). It was clear to me and to other
> technically knowledgeable people in the room that neither the
> senators nor most of the copyright-company witnesses grasped the
> scope of what Disney's Eisner and others were asking for.

> The IT community has a formidable task ahead of it when it comes to
> educating policymakers about the problems and costs of proposals like
> the one Senator Hollings floated prior to this hearing. Because a
> central goal of Hollywood's lobbying effort this time is to prevent
> unencrypted and unwatermarked content from being circulated on the
> Net, and the only kinds of measures that could do this require
> top-to-bottom rearchitecting of every aspect of the digital world.
> This rearchitecting would, among other things, require first the
> labelling of all coprighted content and secondly a redesign of all
> digital tools (from PCs to OSs to routers to everything else) to look
> for the labels and permit or deny copying accordingly. But few
> speakers at the hearing seemed to be aware of this.

jazz
response 92 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 18:19 UTC 2002

        s/democrat/moderate conservative
        s/republican/conservative

        "And the left wing's been broken long ago,
         By a sling named cointelpro."

                -Ani DiFranco
dbunker
response 93 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 20:54 UTC 2002

Well, folks, it sounds like it's time to put your money where your mouths are.
Here's Hollings number: 202-224-6121. I just spent about 15 minutes talking
to his staff and the staff of the committee. I made it clear how I felt,
including not trying to hide the anger in my voice. And I promised to
contribute to his Republican opponent's campaign if he doesn't step back and
reevaluate the deep flaws in his approach. I also told them my prefered
solution would be a tax on all digital storage media similar to the blank tape
tax. If you have your own alternatives, it would be far better to mention them
to his staff than here.
krj
response 94 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 21:03 UTC 2002

On the Hollings proposal, Republican Senators were the ones speaking
up to suggest that a Federal law was not the way to proceed here.
 
However, the corporate/government consensus has settled on the Stalinist
position that the people should not have access to copying machines.
Intel and other tech companies argue only that they will fix the 
problem for Hollywood, and they don't want the government mandating 
a klunky solution.
krj
response 95 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 00:22 UTC 2002

Odd things happening over in Morpheus/Kazaa land...  the following is 
pieced together from stories from Cnet, Slashdot, Infoanarchy, and 
probably a few other places, plus the musiccity.com and kazaa.com 
sites.
 
To start things off, I need to lay out a diagram:

        Morpheus/MusicCity                   KaZaa
               |                               |
               ----------Fast Track Network-----

Morpheus and Kazaa are the user clients, and they interoperate
using the FastTrack network to share files.   Kazaa and FastTrack
had common ownership.

Kazaa (which was recently sold to new owners, possibly in Australia,
while under orders from a court in the Netherlands to shut down)
took its users through a software upgrade a few weeks ago.  
Early this week, it appears that the KaZaa/FastTrack group 
decided to wipe out Morpheus and grab its user base.
All of a sudden all Morpheus users received a message that they 
could not connect to the network any more.  

   (This will be most interesting to the court currently hearing
    the suit by the RIAA against MusicCity, the company supplying
    the Morpheus software, because in their filings, and in the 
    argument the EFF just filed, it was asserted that the network
    design was such that it could not be shut down.  
    Yet that has now plainly been done.   It seems likely that 
    the Morpheus group had no idea this could be done to them; 
    they were just licensees of the Fast Track protocol.)

Reportedly MusicCity is going to abandon FastTrack (probably they 
have no choice) and rush out a Gnutella-based client.  
Meanwhile, Kazaa.com has a big welcome mat rolled out for former
Morpheus/MusicCity users.  Infoanarchy.org reports that the new
version of KaZaa is loaded with spyware.

Hopefully I haven't mangled things too badly.  It took several days 
for a coherent picture to emerge.  There is still no news on the 
reaction of the Dutch court to KaZaa having fled its jurisdiction.
ea
response 96 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 05:55 UTC 2002

Morpheus' website says that the new client will be available in 2 hours. 
 However, that same message was up 5 hours earlier.  They also seem to 
be implying that Kazaa sabatoged Morpheus users, so as to force them to 
install Kazaa (and it's acompanying spyware)
gull
response 97 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 20:23 UTC 2002

http://www.theregus.com/content/54/24195.html

Senator brutalizes Intel rep for resisting CPRM
By Thomas C Greene in Washington
Posted: 03/01/2002 at 09:45 EST


Entertainment industry lapdog Senator Fritz Hollings (Democrat, South 
Carolina) lashed out at Intel executive VP Leslie Vadasz who warned 
that the copy-protected PCs Hollings is obediantly promoting on behalf 
of his MPAA and RIAA handlers would stifle growth in the marketplace. 

"We do not need to neuter the personal computer to be nothing more than 
a videocassette recorder," Vadasz said in testimony before the Senate 
Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation Thursday. 

An obedient Hollings tore into the witness, calling his 
testimony "nonsense". 

"Now where do you get all this nonsense about how we're going to have 
irreparable damage?" Hollings demanded. "We don't want to legislate. We 
want to give you time to develop technology." 

The "we" he mentions, it's quite obvious, refers to the entertainment 
industry flacks and lobbyists who wrote Hollings' pet bill, the 
Security Systems Standards and Certification Act (SSSCA), which would 
require hard drives to fail to load 'insecure' applications, and 
perhaps even operating systems at some point in future. Tinkering with 
one's own personal property to defeat this Orwellian innovation would 
be criminally punishable. 

This is of course the entertainment industry's dream, as it seeks to 
hobble all equipment so that it can determine when, where and how its 
content can be enjoyed by consumers. Copying any content from one 
medium to another could be blocked on the pretext of piracy prevention, 
so it's entirely possible that one would have to purchase two CDs with 
the same content -- one for the computer and one for the stereo, say. 
It's this sort of extortion the industry has relentlessly lobbied 
Congress to enshrine in law. 

Defeating piracy is the pretext; but obliterating the consumer's right 
to fair use is the true goal. But because Congress can't quite bring 
itself to eliminate fair use directly and up-front, a series of laws 
like the DMCA and SSSCA have been devised to eliminate it practically, 
or 'incidentally'. 

Naturally, the hardware industry is going to resist any law which 
forces it to break its products. It understands that consumers will be 
disappointed by equipment which fails to let them enjoy content which 
they've purchased. They see a slump in sales in the SSSCA. And they're 
probably right. 

The hearing was a typical Congressional dog-and-pony show designed to 
stroke Hollywood fat cats like Michael Eisner and Jack Valenti pursuing 
the Holy Grail of pay-per-use technology. No critics were invited to 
speak, and no harsh criticism was expected. 

So when Intel's Vadasz showed the spine to blast the entertainment 
industry's pet scheme, he had to be beaten down, and Hollings was of 
course eager to please his masters. 

Eisner and Valenti also testified, exhibiting their profound ignorance 
of technology and their sneering contempt for the rights of consumers, 
under Hollings' admiring gaze. Hollings, apparently, is an 'honest 
politician' according to Brendan Behan's formula: when he's bought, he 
stays bought. 

Hollings has also adopted the industry's basic stance, that copying is 
primarily about piracy and only rarely about honest fair use, at one 
point calling the Internet "a haven for thievery." But the best 
expression of this comes from Recording Industry Ass. of America 
President Hillary Rosen, who wrote yesterday that, "surely, no one can 
expect copyright owners to ignore what is happening in the marketplace 
and fail to protect their creative works because some people engage in 
copying just for their personal use." 

The 'some people' says it all. Most people are criminals, and only a 
tiny minority are honest and decent, Rosen assumes. This is also the 
official perspective of Hollywood -- of Eisner, and Valenti, and 
Hollings. It is a perspective natural to a certain class of person. 
Consider that we all imagine others to be more or less like ourselves. 
Decent people expect others to be decent, just like themselves. 
Criminals expect others to be criminals, just like themselves. When 
Eisner and Rosen and Valenti and Hollings see a world populated by 
cheats and frauds and freeloading scum, what does that say about them?
tpryan
response 98 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 01:13 UTC 2002

        This would also shut down the home studio, wouldn't it?
Also making it harder for non-big company artists to take money
away from the big company market.
        There is a lot that a home musician can now do on their
home PC, without expensive studio time.
gull
response 99 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 18:46 UTC 2002

Excerpt from http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,50797,00.html

SAN JOSE -- The Russian company that created software to circumvent 
Adobe's e-book format argued on Monday that its conduct -- which caused 
the arrest and detainment of programmer Dmitri Sklyarov in a high-
profile case last summer -- was not illegal. 

Elcomsoft, the Moscow-based software firm, claimed that because it 
offered the encryption-breaking software on the Internet, the company 
was not subject to U.S. copyright law. 

Joseph Burton, Elcomsoft's attorney, told U.S. District Judge Ronald 
Whyte that Elcomsoft's actions "occurred in Russia or on the Internet, 
and we take the position that the Internet is a place" outside of U.S. 
jurisdiction. 

Burton said the company was not specifically "targeting" the software 
to Americans, but that the software was instead available to anyone on 
the Internet, regardless of residence. 

But Assistant U.S. Attorney Scott Frewing dismissed those claims, 
arguing that the Internet is a "physical presence" made up of many 
computers in America, and that "the U.S. has every right to stop 
contraband" on those machines. 

He added that Elcomsoft maintained a Web server in Chicago, that it 
hired a U.S. billing service, that it made no effort to prevent 
Americans from accessing its site, and that it sent e-mail messages to 
customers it knew were Americans. 

After the 40 minutes of arguments, Judge Whyte issued no immediate 
decision, and both sides said that they could not predict when a 
decision would come. 

---

Sounds like a pretty weak argument to me, but of course in legal 
defenses a lot of times you just throw things at the wall and see what 
sticks.
jmsaul
response 100 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 19:30 UTC 2002

If they didn't have a server here, and weren't working with a US billing
service, they'd have a point.
hash
response 101 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 03:55 UTC 2002

the ebook encryption was ROT13, right?  thats some funny shit.
you can run !rot13 on grex and break ebook encryption.
jmsaul
response 102 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 06:31 UTC 2002

It wasn't really, was it?
gull
response 103 of 219: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 13:50 UTC 2002

I don't think it was actually ROT13, but it was apparently nearly as 
simple.  I haven't seen it actually explained (presumably that'd be 
illegal) but from some of the comments I've seen I suspect it may have 
been just a substitution cipher.  Hey, if the law says no one can try 
to break your code, why bother making it strong?
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