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scott
response 79 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 16:36 UTC 2002

(er, worth the $160 to buy the machine, not to replace the belt.  The new belt
cost something like $10-15 with shipping)
slynne
response 80 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 17:22 UTC 2002

I definately will ask Jim (and others) for nice whole grain bread 
recipes! 
i
response 81 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 12:15 UTC 2002

Note that most bread recipes probably need to be tweaked (adjust yeast,
sugar, liquids, etc.) to your machine (which has slightly different times,
temps, pan shape, etc. than the recipe-writer's machine).
slynne
response 82 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 18:34 UTC 2002

I see. That just might end up being a challenge for me. I am not the 
best cook in the world. Oh well, it will be fun anyways. 
i
response 83 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 23 03:14 UTC 2002

I'm thinking more about a toaster oven.  Cooking for one, there are a
fair number of times when turning on the stove's oven just seems silly
(making 6 muffins or some such).  I don't make toast, so the "can also
reheat pizza" bottom-end models are out.  I want something that'll do
a loaf of banana bread, small casserole, etc. 

Measuring tape, etc. will tell me if it would fit in & not blow fuses - 
but how useful are such things?  Are good ones really a smaller version
of a "real" oven, or just glorified TV dinner heaters?  Is "convection"
a real feature or a noisy price-hike? 
slynne
response 84 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 23 04:03 UTC 2002

I made my first loaf of bread in my bread machine! It didnt rise as much as
I would have liked but it was edible!
cmcgee
response 85 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 23 12:11 UTC 2002

Toaster ovens are Great for small batches.  I even have a set of baking
pans that fit toaster ovens.  It includes a jelly roll pan (the cookie pan
with 3/8 in sides), a 9 1/4 by 6 1/2 by 2 in baking pan that is a great
lasagne size, a 7 1/2 by 3/3/4 by 2 1/4 in loaf pan, three mini pie pans,
and four mini loaf pans. Made by Mirro.  I don't remember the last time I
saw them on sale, but check the (fake) hardware store on Stadium, next to
Big George's. [We all know that Stadium Hardware is the REAL hardware
store on Stadium}. 

Over the years I've collected a couple 6-hole muffin pans, a springform
pan with both a flat bottom and center-hole insert, 7 inch pie pans, two
small round cake pans, and numerous tart pans of various shapes.  I make
biscuits, muffins, cookies, cornbread, and just about everything else in
my toaster oven.  

The Jiffy mix single layer cake mixes make the cutest little layer cakes.
For mixing small batches of cookies, my Cuisinart Little Pro Plus is a
whizz.  (It also whips egg whites, juices limes, lemons and oranges, and
doubles as a salad shooter, with a side-directed, continuous feed shredder
or slicer.)

That said, I don't bake much, compared to many people here.  If I ate
baked goods very often, I'd probably go the big oven, big freezer route.
slynne
response 86 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 23 15:54 UTC 2002

Wow. that does sound like something a single person could use.
keesan
response 87 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 23 17:58 UTC 2002

I have not used my stove oven for over a year, since we got the bread machine.
I have a small round Nesco electric oven (insulated walls) that works for
potatoes.  Congrats on mastering the bread machine. Whole wheat bread never
rises enough in those.   I wonder if the Nesco would bake bread.
jaklumen
response 88 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 24 08:21 UTC 2002

I really wish I had a toaster oven myself.  I don't eat toast as much 
as I used to, and so I really think a slot toaster alone is somewhat 
useless.  It's hard to cook everything on the stove top and I don't 
always like waiting for a large oven to heat.

resp:85 thanks for the tip, even though I must hunt among my own local 
stores.  hehe
gelinas
response 89 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 24 16:01 UTC 2002

Hmm... We probably should replace our four-slot toaster; one of the handles
won't stay down, so only two of the slots are useable.  A toaster oven would
be easier for some of the larger things, like bagels.  Hmm...
kentn
response 90 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 24 17:27 UTC 2002

We're talking about getting a two-slot toaster that can accept wider
items (like bagels).  There are several of them out there and they
all seem to have a pair of wire grids in the slot that adjust to the
thickness of the item and keep it centered between the heating elements.
Does anyone have any recommendations on this sort of toaster?  Do they
work okay for regular bread?  Do they wear out quickly?  Any particular
brand?
slynne
response 91 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 24 17:42 UTC 2002

I have one like that and it works ok. I think it is Proctor-Silex or 
soemthing. I bought mine for a dollar at a garage sale 2 years ago. 
mary
response 92 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 24 18:48 UTC 2002

A few years ago I purchased a Cuisinart toaster much like
what kentn described in #90.  Works great on both really
thin toast and thick english muffins and specialty 
breads.  

Plus, it had a line of lights to show the darkness setting.
These lights are always on.  So it's yet one more thing to
glow in the dark come nightime.  I love that.
jmsaul
response 93 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 25 03:23 UTC 2002

You can get Hello Kitty toasters at Tsai Grocery.  They even toast a picture
of Hello Kitty on the bread.
kentn
response 94 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 25 04:17 UTC 2002

Heh, but will they toast a picture of Hello Kitty on an English
muffin?
jmsaul
response 95 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 03:02 UTC 2002

Probably screw up the resolution, but what the hell...  ;-)
slynne
response 96 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 19:03 UTC 2002

Oh man. I might have to get that Hello Kitty toaster. 
jmsaul
response 97 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 00:16 UTC 2002

I only saw one more there.
i
response 98 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 01:25 UTC 2002

I've got the latest CR report & ratings on toasters & toaster ovens here
if anyone's interested...
gelinas
response 99 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 02:28 UTC 2002

Sure.  I'm interested.
i
response 100 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 12:43 UTC 2002

From Consumer Reports (usual disclaimers here, i own none of these):

(Defaults - slot-type toasters take thick stuff, everything has one-
year warranties, and toaster ovens rates at least "good" for baking &
broiling while holding at least 4 large slices of toast.) 

4-slot Toasters:
Only 2 of the 15 toasters reviewed were 4-slotters -
Proctor-Silex 2444[5] (similar were Hamilton-Beach 24505, 24507, & 24508)
Toastmaster T2050[W]
CR paid $24 for the P-S & $27 for the Tm.  They liked the P-S's overall
performance better & it has a 2-year warranty.  The Tm's shade dial is
"mostly unmarked".  On specifics, they rated the P-S better for ease of
use and the Tm better for producing a full color range.

At the top (ignoring a $100 Kitchenaid) are Philips HD2533 (Target, $30)
and GE 106641 (106691) (WalMart, $20).  Only an average ease of use kept
the P from taking the gold medal, the GE is above average everywhere &
has a 2-year warranty. 

Toaster Ovens: 
...really ain't built to be toasters (is CR's conclusion).  Only 2 of the
10 reviewed are as good at toasting as any of the "slot machines" i listed
above:
Cuisinart TOB-175 (TOB-165, TOB-160) $205
Delonghi XU120 $53
The C is as good a toaster as the $20 GE 2-slotter, but with better ease of
use.  It's also a large convection/broiler/oven with digital controls & a
3-year warranty.  The D is weak at toasting consistent (color) successive
or full batches, but is a bit easier to use than the ToastMaster.
A notch down at toasting ("very good preformance", but its weakness is 
limited color range) is the Sears Kenmore KTES8 at $70.  

The GE & Kenmore units got "CR Best Buy" (based mostly on price/performance).
They didn't look at any Cuisinart slot-type toasters. 
i
response 101 of 205: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 00:55 UTC 2002

FWIW, the toaster oven i'm thinking about is the paint-instead-of-cool-
polished-metal-outside Cuisinart TOB-165; i'd hope to get it for under
$160 at Big Georges (in Ann Arbor).  I don't make toast, so that stuff
mostly doesn't matter.
headdoc
response 102 of 205: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 16:12 UTC 2003

Electric appliances I currently use:  Microwave oven, toaster oven,drip coffee
maker, small electric chopper, and amazingly a new George Forman Grill which
is turning out to be extremely handy.  small appliances I do not use:  bread
machine, cuisinart mixer, electric knife, immersion blender. blender (for
smoothies.
keesan
response 103 of 205: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 16:16 UTC 2003

Do you want to sell your bread machine (I think you are implying that you have
one)?  Or trade it for a repair of something electrical or mechanical? 
(Assuming you live within a few miles or us or come this way occasionally).
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