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cmcgee
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response 78 of 89:
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Aug 12 23:12 UTC 2005 |
And exactly whose eye-witness account is the "only one 'truth in history'"?
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rcurl
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response 79 of 89:
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Aug 13 05:31 UTC 2005 |
Those that are historically correct.
Actually, while some history may be written by the winners, over time history
is corrected by the scholars.
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twenex
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response 80 of 89:
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Aug 13 22:51 UTC 2005 |
You're obviously forgetting that scholars can disagree on many points. Not
everyone has to have your black and white view of everything.
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rcurl
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response 81 of 89:
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Aug 14 07:31 UTC 2005 |
As I said *over time* history is corrected by scholars. What disagreement
today is there about the history of Eqypt that is not caused by lack
of information?
The only "black and white" perspective I have on history is that *there
was only one course of history*, and it is only our ignorance that leads
to disagreements about it.
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gracel
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response 82 of 89:
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Aug 14 19:23 UTC 2005 |
The term "history" is also used not only for specific descriptions of what
happened but also for generalizations about what happened, and discussions
of why it happened, etc. -- these are fertile ground for disagreements.
And of course, the one course of history looks different from different
places while it's running, and no written history can include all the
different views.
As for "haunted", I would just wonder what jerrybriardy meant by "did
seem pretty weird." He didn't claim the place was haunted, only that
it was alleged to be.
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jadecat
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response 83 of 89:
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Oct 6 16:07 UTC 2005 |
As this conference seems to be haunted... It does rather amaze me to run
across comments I made 10 years ago.
Often ghost stories can provide useful bits of history- and as is
mentioned in #82- if someone truly says 'it's said that this place is
haunted' they're speaking the truth. However that doesn't mean the place
IS haunted.
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tod
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response 84 of 89:
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Nov 4 19:48 UTC 2005 |
History is *corrected* by scholars? I don't buy that.
Events are told through generations and facts and figures are skewed over
time. You can try to explain what the assassination of JFK was like but its
not going to be the same story told by someone that hears 2nd hand. Several
generations later, you're stuck with Oliver Stone's rendition.
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gracel
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response 85 of 89:
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Nov 20 19:19 UTC 2005 |
Maybe after several millennia, we'll be stuck with Oliver Stone's
rendition because somebody saved it as a horrible example of something.
But for the nearer future we'll continue to have other versions, no
two identical.
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jadecat
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response 86 of 89:
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Nov 23 19:06 UTC 2005 |
I'm not sure we'll ever be stuck with just Oliver Stone's version- there
are too many other movies and so on that try to tell the same story- odd
are those will survive as well.
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bhelliom
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response 87 of 89:
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Sep 22 15:47 UTC 2008 |
I hope I can contribute and put a little life back into this conference.
Of course, I have no idea how much traffic Grex gets these days.
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jadecat
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response 88 of 89:
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Sep 24 13:36 UTC 2008 |
It gets a bit, and from time to time it's possible to breathe new life
into the conferences. :)
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papa
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response 89 of 89:
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Sep 17 01:43 UTC 2018 |
Grex History Conference
I've dug down through decades of backlogged posts and found the History
conference! This looks interesting, especially since it now preserves the
history of discussions of history.
resp:26 Not history, but I was interested by a recent review of ARMSTRONG
by H.W. Crocker III, a humorous alternate history about Custer. https://ww
w.theamericanconservative.com/birzer/what-if-custer-were-a-lone-surv ivor/
resp:40 resp: 42 These posts are a gem of a time capsule! Thousands for a
college degree? I think today in-state tuition will set you back several tens
of thousands, and out-of-state and private colleges over one hundred thou.
Imperialism? As we now know in this enlightened 21st century, of course it's
always about imperialism! And sexism, racism, ableism, homophobia,
transphobia, islamophobia, and whatever other evil the dead straight Christian
white men have been conspiring in. ;)
resp:61 Isn't "contemporary history" an oxymoron? I know it's an actual
thing, but to me it seems that if it's contemporary, it's really just news --
history takes at least a few decades/generations to digest.
resp:73 and onward. Interesting 2005 discussion of ghosts and the nature of
truth in history.
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