response 76 of 126:

Jul 11 13:23 UTC 2008

resp:72 I agree that that's a pretty obvious thing.  Personally, I think
we need to upgrade to a new machine with such functionality just built
in.  It would probably be pretty easy, but we need to spec something out
and just buy it.

The board discussed doing that, and make some steps toward actually
doing it, but then got sidetracked (that was actually my fault: the task
was mine, and I got so busy that it never happened).

I will look again.

An issue: when Grex got onto its present hardware, we sort of did it by
buying the cheapest stuff we could.  In retrospect, that was a bad idea,
and a continued symptom of our past "cheapness."  That is, our limited
budget had forced us to be bottom feeders when it came to hardware.  It
further forced us to be clever when it came to stringing things together
into a usable system.  That was all well and good in and around the
90's, not so much later, but we got used to it and by the time we had
actual money, we still thought about things in the old way.  Some of the
predictions about the unreliability of PC hardware that we'd fought off
came true, but largely they were self-fulfilling prophecies that we
subjected ourselves to, not functions of the hardware.

Well, that was then.  This incarnation of Grex has been running since
late 2003 or thereabouts, and it's really time to upgrade to new
hardware.  In doing that, let's *not* nickle and dime ourselves into
unreliability; we have the money, let's get some decent hardware and go
from there.

response 78 of 126:

Jul 11 15:22 UTC 2008

Re. 74: Glenda, someone making a terse comment is not a discussion by any
definition.

It's not clear to me exactly how touching it is that you're trying to convince
us you have no special quarter for your own husband.

However, it is quite clear that you used what you believed to be your
privileged access to the staff conference to mislead Grex's membership into
thinking Steve's drastic action may have been well considered, robustly
discussed, or possibly even something that had gained consensus among staff. 
It's also clear that, now that your deception has been plainly exposed, you're
attempting to avoid responsibility by refusing to talk about it. 

Volunteer or no, using a position of authority to lie to the members of a
corporation and indeed the members of what's purpoted to be an open community
is simply unacceptable.

response 80 of 126:

Jul 12 09:31 UTC 2008

"it is quite clear that you used what you believed to be your
privileged access to the staff conference to mislead Grex's membership 
into
thinking Steve's drastic action may have been well considered, robustly
discussed, or possibly even something that had gained consensus among 
staff."

Thanks tarp, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who got that 
impression from her statement. It was a PIOUS FRAUD

"now that your deception has been plainly exposed, you're
attempting to avoid responsibility by refusing to talk about it."

Hey, her not speaking is doing the rest of us a favor. I'm hoping this 
gets steve so pissed off he he comes busting in here like like a swat 
team.  

response 82 of 126:

Jul 12 15:10 UTC 2008

resp:79 Yeah, except that that really didn't happen.  That said, given
the context, Steve's actions were NOT unreasonable.  The real problem
wasn't that newuser got turned off as a stopgap; the problem was that we
never figured out how to turn it back on.

resp:80 [last paragraph] I'm not sure what purpose that would serve. 
Are you trying to antagonize Steve into doing something so drastic that
the resulting community uproar would toss him out of grex?  I don't
think that's likely to happen.

resp:81 That just sounds bitter.  And, frankly, a little lame:
communities change over time, just like neighborhoods.  It's not dying,
it's changing.  That it's changing to something you don't particularly
care for is totally irrelevant, and speaks more about you than it does
about everybody else.  Now, that said, if you have something productive
to add, we're all ears....

response 84 of 126:

Jul 14 02:29 UTC 2008

Do you like what you see in YOUR mirror?  Do you even bother to ever notice.
While we're at it, do you look ANY deeper, at ANY time, than surface?

        Gawd, you're a lonely and bitter man...

response 86 of 126:

Jul 14 18:11 UTC 2008

re #85
You totally missed the mark.  

response 88 of 126:

Jul 14 18:40 UTC 2008

And that's how it goes
millions of grexers
losing contro-o-ol

response 90 of 126:

Jul 15 07:42 UTC 2008

Re #79: "your slurs exhibit al the pathos of an immature thinker - try
again." 

I beg to differ: "an axe to grind" seems to be more appropriate. <bops
the scholar on ze head - you seem to forget sweetie that there are
elections held, so it *IS* an open community>

Re #83: She isn't even close to being morbidly obese. You shouldn't
abandon honesty when you attack someone, it looses all its *sting*

*Mmm* my lunch is not half bad :) Cold chicken with rice+carrots but
there is tangy bread with butter and just the right amount of tang to it
:) I need that tangy-jammy recipe :)

Actually, maybe, would it be possible to backup the Grex server and give
complete root access to scholar, cdalten and lar just for like a month
or so AFTER warning everyone?? Or maybe setup an alternate domain using
VMware?? evvvilhax0r.cyberspace.org. 

Hmm come to think off it, scholar is a canuck, canucks have cheap
bandwidth - can't he run a temporary thing on his home box and if things
work out.. just a suggestion - I wouldn't dream of allowing scholar,
chad and maybe lar near the actual grex server but maybe we could all
login (and use different passwords for his box) and see how things are
run there...

Just a suggestion, no nasty flames please. It would resolve to some
extent this problem.. It would be fun, it might really take off, we have
another box to play with, and it would feel like Grex :)

response 92 of 126:

Jul 17 01:40 UTC 2008

yeah, swindled and lied to

response 94 of 126:

Jul 17 04:20 UTC 2008

I don't have records of the exact amount, but I definitely donated quite a
bit, especially compared to my income.

response 96 of 126:

Jul 17 07:17 UTC 2008

Pt Barnum said there's a sucker born every minute

response 98 of 126:

Jul 17 09:43 UTC 2008

polytarp is the one who got suckered into sending grex $$. Did you 
send them any? That's why I said sucker.