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bru
response 75 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 8 01:40 UTC 2003

Technology changes, and the music industry needs to change with it.  I would
also think some individual artists would start selling their music online.
jmsaul
response 76 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 8 01:50 UTC 2003

They have been, actually.
jazz
response 77 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 8 03:18 UTC 2003

        ... or giving it away, which they do too.  In fact, several smaller
bands that I know of have given away all of their recorded material for
free, and some bigger artists have made internet-only albums which are also
free.
anderyn
response 78 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 8 16:15 UTC 2003

I have gotten artist-only things online (Dougie Maclean had some neat
recordings of in-concert songs, but only did it the once, as far as I know),
and of course, mp3.com has some nice things too. 
otaking
response 79 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 8 21:54 UTC 2003

Re #72: Twila, try getting a copy of the Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome
soundtrack. It has Tina's version of the song, plus some other song she did
for the movie.
tod
response 80 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 8 21:56 UTC 2003

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dbratman
response 81 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 10 17:05 UTC 2003

Concerning the justification of illegal copying - long before the 
filesharing wars ever came up, I would photocopy entire books that I 
wanted but were out of print and unavailable used at other than 
extortionist prices, and considered myself fully justified in doing so, 
especially as I have always replaced them with legitimate copies if 
they've come back into print.

Concerning the proposition that absence of copyright protection 
is "communist", it's been pointed out that perpetual copyright laws 
make the folk process illegal.
krj
response 82 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 11 05:29 UTC 2003

And folk music and communism are intimately related: the Weavers'
blacklisting, the refusal of Republican administrations to allow
Dick Gaughan into the USA, the founding of Topic Records as an outreach
operation of the British Communist Party.
bru
response 83 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 11 23:38 UTC 2003

why blame republicans and not democrats?
jaklumen
response 84 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 12 00:25 UTC 2003

I probably blame them about equally.  Happy?
krj
response 85 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 12 03:24 UTC 2003

Bruce: Dick Gaughan was allowed into the US under the Carter and Clinton
administrations; I saw him on tours in those years.  He was not allowed
in during the Reagan and Bush I years, and right now it looks like
the Bush II administration doesn't want him in either.  Gaughan is 
up front about his Communist political beliefs.
krj
response 86 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 12 03:43 UTC 2003

(I realize I should elaborate further for many of our readers.
Dick Gaughan, mentioned in resp:83 & resp:85, is Scotland's finest
man with a guitar, an active folk music performer for about 30 years.
Gaughan's own comment on his barring from the US during the Reagan-Bush
years:  "The only time I'm a danger to America is when I forget what 
side of the road to drive on!")
anderyn
response 87 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 12 14:06 UTC 2003

I thought we had seen him during Bush II's presidency? (Gaughan,  that is.)
gull
response 88 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 12 15:11 UTC 2003

Our democracy is so fragile, and communism is so powerful, that one 
communist folk singer could bring democracy crashing down?
slynne
response 89 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 12 15:15 UTC 2003

I didnt know foreign performers were being banned because of their 
political beliefs. 
jep
response 90 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 12 16:03 UTC 2003

I was cruising around the Internet, looking for marching music.  I 
found a few CDs on http://www.sonymusicstore.com, adn so to find out 
how much one of them was, I clicked on the "Buy Now" icon.  It took me 
to a screen full of new classical music.  I stumbled around on that for 
a while, but was unable to find the label of the CD in which I'd been 
interested, let alone how to buy it.

So there's one for the Napster/Kazaa users side, or at least for the 
argument that the music companies have to become a little easier to do 
business with.  I was fully repelled by their system.  Having found 
something I wanted, ready to reach for my credit card and get it right 
now, I was unable to place my order.

They won't lose much if this sort of experience is confined to niche 
buyers like those who want marching music, but I'll bet it's a more 
general problem than that.
jep
response 91 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 12 16:07 UTC 2003

BTW, I bought MusicMatch Jukebox on recommendation from various people 
on M-Net.  What a pleasure to use!  I just got a new computer at work, 
and am putting all my marching music CDs on it.  I play marching music 
as a noise buffer.  With Real Jukebox a couple of years ago, I had to 
type in every song title, every composer, every album name.  MusicMatch 
has all that information on-line for most of my CDs.  I put in the 
disk, tell the program to record, and it saves it all to disk for me.  
krj
response 92 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 13 18:34 UTC 2003

News clippings:

Universal Music Group is piling on to a lawsuit against Bertelsmann Music
Group (BMG); one of the five major labels in the RIAA is suing another,
whee!   Universal charges that by loaning money to Napster, BMG 
acquires liability for Napster's copyright violations, to the tune 
of $150,000 per song infringed, the statutory amount.
 
http://news.com.com/2100-1027_3-1001190.html?tag=fd_top

As I mentioned in the previous link to an article about Universal and EMI
suing Napster's venture capitalist investors, the copyright industry
is now threatening fundamental principles of American capitalism
by seeking to hold investors, and now those who loan money, liable
for vast sums beyond the amount they have chosen to place at risk
through investment and loans.

Cnet's article says that Sony declined to join in the suit against BMG
because Sony felt it would not go anywhere.

----

http://news.com.com/2010-1071_3-1000673.html
"Hold technology creators liable?"  by Declan McCullagh
 
This is sort of a rambling piece, but McCullagh argues that in the recent
decision on the file sharing networks Grokster and Morpheus, the courts
seem to be backing away from the idea of holding the inventors of 
technology responsible for its uses.  

McCullagh also expects the copyright industry to start to push Congress
to make the development or operation of P2P networks a crime.

((Can we put Bill Gates in jail?  :)   ))
krj
response 93 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 15 16:07 UTC 2003

Jon Newton's news & advocacy website http://www.p2pnet.net is back
in business; updates to the site had stopped for several months
while the owner relocated his family to Canada's Pacific coast.
He's got a flurry of reports of legal action.
 
The Ohio State University police department has seized five computers
from dorm residents as part of an investigation of a file sharing 
system using Direct Connect, one of the software packages named 
in the recent RIAA civil actions:
  http://www.p2pnet.net/may03/bust.html
 
German police raid the home of an individual alleged to be running
an OpenNap "clone" of Napster.  (I *think* OpenNap is a reverse-
engineered version of the original Napster system.)
The raid was requested by the IFPI, the international version
of the RIAA.
  http://www.p2pnet.net/may03/openap.html

Three college students in Sydney, Australia, have won the prosecution
lottery.  They have been accused of running "a Napster-like website"
and this is a criminal case, not a civil one.  The students face
up to five years in jail, plus fines.

Australia is also still contemplating legal action against the 
universities whose networks are used in file sharing.
  http://www.p2pnet.net/may03/aus.html
  http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/05/13/1052591788418.html
 
And one last one from fatchucks.com:
The legal case against two young Koreans who ran a Napster-like
file-trading system called Soribada have had their case thrown
out by the court on procedural grounds.  The court ruled that 
the prosecution had not adequately specified what the defendants
did which was illegal.   (Soribada means "Sea of Sound."  I always
liked that name.)
  http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200305/kt2003051517490512020.htm
gregb
response 94 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 15 17:54 UTC 2003

All this is starting to sound like something out of "Fahrenheit 451."
goose
response 95 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 15 19:29 UTC 2003

Yep, and it's bound to get worse....:-(
krj
response 96 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 19 16:28 UTC 2003

Widely reported this weekend:  Roxio, who bought the assets of Napster
in the bankruptcy sale, are planning to buy Pressplay, one of the two
music-industry-owned download sites, and rebrand it as Napster.

((Unless they convert to a licensing policy like Apple's, this
  will go nowhere fast, I predict.  I suspect Roxio is way overestimating
  the value of the Napster brand, especially after it's been shut down
  for two years.))
krj
response 97 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 19 18:08 UTC 2003

Tower Records is in trouble again.  The newspaper for their corporate
hometown reports that they almost (?) missed a $5.2 million interest
payment at the end of May, and an investment banker has 
been hired to try to sell the company, which is still owned by 
the family which founded it.  Tower may be in jeopardy
of a bond default which would trigger a bankruptcy filing; it has 
dodged bankruptcy three times in the last few years.
 
A sale of Tower would probably mean a radical restructuring in 
how it works as a business.  Tower's main market niche -- "we carry
almost everything, especially in classical" -- has been pounded by
the triple threat of Napster, Amazon, and the collapse of the 
demand for classical music CDs.   One analyst seems to envision Tower
becoming a clone of Borders.   Others aren't sure that there is 
any future for any free-standing music retailer.

http://www.sacbee.com/content/business/story/6693887p-7645325c.html

I have to say that I was surprised (and sad) at how empty the 
two large Tower stores in New York were when I visited them last 
month.  I also learned that Tower's freebie magazine PULSE has 
been terminated.
krj
response 98 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 20 13:24 UTC 2003

A NY Post business columnist speculates that MusicNet, the major label
download service which Roxio did NOT buy, is a good candidate to be 
shut down by its owners.   MusicNet has fewer customers than 
the 50,000 attributed to PressPlay (soon to be named Napster), and its
software and licensing rules are considered more annoying.
 
Quote:  "Pressplay is expected to relaunch under the Napster brand 
         sometime before next March, according to Roxio's CEO Chris
         Gorog."

An early 2004 launch for Pay Napster would give Apple a bit more time
to set up iTunes for Windows.

> http://www.nypost.com/business/76099.htm

-----
 
Despite an 11% decline in their sales,  the record company EMI had a 
huge upturn in their profits: last year EMI reported a loss of 200 million
UK pounds, and this year they made a profit  of 230 million pounds.
Converted to dollars, that's an improvement of well over $600 million.
To get back in the black, EMI dumped 400 artists and 1900 staffers.

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/BUSINESS/05/20/emi/index.html


jaklumen
response 99 of 154: Mark Unseen   May 21 00:25 UTC 2003

from the last AP release I read, the media seems to be somewhat 
positive over Roxio's acquistion and the for pay Napster.
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