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scg
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response 75 of 175:
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Dec 3 01:56 UTC 1998 |
It's in Redwood Shores, California, I think. It's 19" rackmountable, meaning
it's at most 19 inches wide, and probably about three feet tall or so, but
I may be wrong about that. I would guess it's probably somewhere around 2
feet deep. It's likely to be fairly heavy.
$.33 per mile covers more than gas money, and Jan's offer was to pay gas
money, not milage. My small pick-up truck, which is in no condition to get
to California and back without some amount of work and a driver who is willing
to deal with problems on the road, gets around 30 miles to the gallon on the
freeway. I don't know if that's at all typical or not, but assuming it is,
a 4,000 mile round trip would consume around 133 gallons of gas, so at a
dollar a gallon, that would be around $133.
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jerome
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response 76 of 175:
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Dec 3 04:26 UTC 1998 |
If no one is willing/able to make it the whole distance, possibly some type
of brigade could be formed. If this is the case (and if time isn't
an issue) I would be willing to transport it from, say, central Colorado to
eastern Iowa or possibly western Illinois. Grexers across the US, unite!
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aruba
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response 77 of 175:
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Dec 3 04:44 UTC 1998 |
Re #74: Oops, you're right. I grew up on the East Coast, so I still think of
California as 3000 miles away, even though it's not.
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janc
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response 78 of 175:
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Dec 3 16:44 UTC 1998 |
Hmmm...the gas price is more than I thought. The pictures I've seen of
the box look taller than 3 feet. I'm not sure the chassis is worth
$670 of gas to us.
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keesan
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response 79 of 175:
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Dec 3 17:11 UTC 1998 |
Would a wooden box work as well? What does the chassis do?
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mcnally
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response 80 of 175:
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Dec 3 18:03 UTC 1998 |
A wooden box would probably hold in far too much heat..
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scott
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response 81 of 175:
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Dec 3 21:05 UTC 1998 |
A wooden box will probably not have a VME backplane, or a power supply.
But we have a spare chassis or two here. If we are buying spares, then we'd
likely be just putting a good card into the chassis to replace one that died.
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rcurl
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response 82 of 175:
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Dec 3 22:14 UTC 1998 |
I have not unleashed my inquiry for transportation from CA (re #70, 71) as
the answers to my questions appear to be uncertain ( "...I think..." ). If
the powwers-that-be want me to inquire, please e-mail me with the true
facts.
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scg
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response 83 of 175:
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Dec 3 23:50 UTC 1998 |
I think I'd be somewhat uncomfortable with handing valuable hardware like this
off to random people from mailing lists that nobody here knows. If these are
people you know and trust, that would be different. I certainly can't speak
for the whole staff and board on that.
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rcurl
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response 84 of 175:
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Dec 4 06:00 UTC 1998 |
I would trust these people with my life (and have), but I'm just making
an offer to find assistance, and am not pushing this.
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scg
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response 85 of 175:
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Dec 4 06:07 UTC 1998 |
Ok, that's fine with me, then. I wasn't sure from what you were saying if
this was a mailing list of people you knew, or a mailing list of a bunch fo
random people.
It's looking at this point, with only 12 days left, as if we'll probably just
have them ship the cards and not get the chassis, since we can afford that.
However, it certainly stilld doesn't hurt to ask. If somebody can pick this
up for us quickly, that woudl be wonderful.
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rtg
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response 86 of 175:
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Dec 4 06:25 UTC 1998 |
I may be able to talk a friend in the San Francisco area into picking up
and storing it for us.
I drove out there and back this summer. Driving solo, it was six days
driving each way. Three drivers in a van, driving in shifts, can make it
in 40-44 hours, either way, that's a lot of time. I suspect UPS would be
cheaper than gas money. If the donor is willing to ship the cards, are
they willing to package the cabinet, if we pay the freight?
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mary
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response 87 of 175:
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Dec 4 10:53 UTC 1998 |
How much money will this cost Grex? I'd like to see that posted
before any final decisions are made.
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senna
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response 88 of 175:
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Dec 4 13:43 UTC 1998 |
I was about to say... 40-44 hours (to my knowledge having driven to Colorado
and having good travel experience but not having been to california) sounds
about right. That's four days for me.
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aruba
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response 89 of 175:
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Dec 4 15:43 UTC 1998 |
Re #87: I don't think we can say, Mary, until UPS weighs it and packages it.
Maybe someone could stimate the shipping charges with or without the case?
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scg
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response 90 of 175:
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Dec 4 18:54 UTC 1998 |
Oh, it turns out I was wrong about the size. It's been described as two
refrigerator sized boxes.
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rcurl
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response 91 of 175:
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Dec 4 19:30 UTC 1998 |
Is that a counter-top apartment refrigerator, or a meat store refrigerator?
(Why don't people just give the sizes and weights, instead of invoking
dubious analogies?)
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scg
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response 92 of 175:
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Dec 4 20:03 UTC 1998 |
Because you're the only person who analises thigns to that level, while
everybody else would assume that normal house refridgerators are the standard
size. ;)
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janc
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response 93 of 175:
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Dec 4 20:49 UTC 1998 |
I can't image that we want two refrigerator sized chassis. Where would
we put them? The specs I saw said they need 220 volts, which we haven't
got in the pumpkin. I think we should give up on the boxes and just get
the guts. Shipping on that would be more plausible.
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aruba
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response 94 of 175:
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Dec 5 00:23 UTC 1998 |
I heartily agree.
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drew
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response 95 of 175:
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Dec 5 20:43 UTC 1998 |
Shipping the chassis may indeed cost more than they're worth. But I disagree
that you "don't have 220 volts" in the Pumpkin. Open the circuit breaker box
and look inside; you'll see a bunch of switches clipped into an array of metal
prongs. If you look closely, you'll see that this is essentially two metal
"combs" with the "teeth" interleaved. These are opposite poles of alternating
+120 volts to -120 volts AC. A single circuit breaker connects *one* of these
metal combs to that circuit, then to ground. There are 220V circuit breakers
you can buy at the Home Depot than connect to *both* combs, via two adjacent
teeth, to supply 220 volts to a circuit. Buy one, hook the circuit up to it,
power down, pop it in, power back up. You can also get wiring and 220 volt
sockets as needed. I did this to put a 220 socket in my garage, just in case
I might want 220 volts for some reason.
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scott
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response 96 of 175:
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Dec 6 13:17 UTC 1998 |
We don't have the box in the Pumpkin, though, so we'd have to run some new
wire in the building.
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mta
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response 97 of 175:
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Dec 6 21:24 UTC 1998 |
I'd say "get the guts and forget the rest".
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mdw
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response 98 of 175:
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Dec 6 21:30 UTC 1998 |
(It's worth remembering that we still have at least one drive that's
just sitting out in the open with an ordinary window fan for cooling.)
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remmers
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response 99 of 175:
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Dec 6 21:49 UTC 1998 |
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