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rcurl
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response 75 of 108:
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Jan 8 08:22 UTC 1995 |
I ran it from my unix prompt, and I could not interrupt it, at least
not by any combination I could find on my keyboard!
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popcorn
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response 76 of 108:
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Jan 8 13:51 UTC 1995 |
How were you connected to Grex at the time?
Did you type your interrupt character? (I'd guess so.)
Re 74: TS, unfortunately there tend to be a lot of problems with people
doing things like the "|yes" that Marcus mentioned. Helpers are generally
resourceful enough to be able to either mail a file to a helpee, or tell
the helpee how to view a particular file. I don't think turning | and &
on in write would be a good idea.
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bartlett
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response 77 of 108:
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Jan 8 18:16 UTC 1995 |
<Chris clears his throat hesitantly> Ahem, um could you take the write
discussion to a new item? The management thanks you.
Here is my time-line. Note this is very tentative and I reserve the right
to change it w/o notice for the nonce.
1-14 have a basic outline prepared.
2-1 Have all necessary research, Email interviews etc, completed.
2-8 put the thing together.
2-15, work out the issues involved, and distribute the first issue of the
Grex newsletter.
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tsty
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response 78 of 108:
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Jan 9 16:08 UTC 1995 |
i couldn't care less about |. & however, is what I talked
about and is exactly the right tool for the right job - AT the
moment when it is MOST needed.
email is a tragic substitute for &.
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tsty
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response 79 of 108:
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Jan 16 16:12 UTC 1995 |
And i rather prefer to use the correct tools.
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andyv
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response 80 of 108:
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Jan 16 22:56 UTC 1995 |
Chris, what is your idea about conducting an e-mail interview? Sounds
interesting. who do you think should be our first interviewee? An old-
timer on Grex maybe.
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andyv
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response 81 of 108:
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Jan 21 18:04 UTC 1995 |
I hope some of the articles which will be considered for an official
newsletter will be floated first in the grexnews cf. That will be a
great way to pick and choose and get some good editting too.
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bartlett
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response 82 of 108:
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Jan 23 15:36 UTC 1995 |
First of all, mea culpa mea maxima culpa. I don't have the outline for
the first issue yet, but I *will* have it by this weekend.
As for Email interviews, I'd envisioned sending a list of questions to the
interviewee, then using the responses to those questions. In some cases,
it might be possible to do ftf interviews, which would probably be better,
but not always possible either for the interviewee or me.
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rcurl
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response 83 of 108:
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Jan 23 17:17 UTC 1995 |
This item should be linked to the grexnews cf.
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andyv
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response 84 of 108:
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Jan 23 18:35 UTC 1995 |
How about I write a summary and in that summary direct folks here for the
complete text? I would like to encourage more people to get involved
in other conferences by going there for discussion. What do you think?
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rcurl
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response 85 of 108:
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Jan 24 17:57 UTC 1995 |
This item records some of the history of the initiation of the
newsletter. grexnews is meant to be current and topical. However there
will continue to be discussion items for the current activity of the
newsletter, and for its future. The latter are the most important to
have in both, for users that participate in only one or the other.
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steve
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response 86 of 108:
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Jan 25 19:07 UTC 1995 |
The idea of the newsletter sounds good to me. I just have one question:
Why on earth does the board need to sanction it?
We're in the communications business already folks--we do it every day
here. You could sort of think of the entire coop conference as a form of
newsletter. Actually, a person who I pointed at coop because they wanted
to learn more about us said just that.
So, since we collectively create gobs of ASCII every day, why should
the board have anything to do with it? Am I missing something really
obvious here? If someone had just started to write a newsletter and not
saying anything publically until it was in many mailboxes, would the board
have felt it was necessary to step in?
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cicero
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response 87 of 108:
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Jan 26 06:34 UTC 1995 |
I was kind wondering that too steve.
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rcurl
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response 88 of 108:
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Jan 26 07:11 UTC 1995 |
I think it should be created by official action. Then we know that Grex
has a newsletter, and can stir the pot to find editors (when necessary),
etc, while not having six newsletters all acting as the "official" organ
of grex. The point is that Grex has a public "personna". It owns its
names, its domain, and its equipment. I think it should own publications
that purport to represent Grex, as distinct to publications produced in
ad-hoc manners by Grex users. The conferences are obviously the latter,
and no one thinks that they necessarily officially represent grex. But
people will think a newsletter does (even if you deny it).
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remmers
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response 89 of 108:
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Jan 26 10:48 UTC 1995 |
Right. If I were to unilaterally start a "Computer Science Department
Newsletter" and distribute it in people's mailboxes all over the
university, some eyebrows would be raised to say the least...
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steve
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response 90 of 108:
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Jan 26 19:31 UTC 1995 |
Sure, I understand that, John. But isn't Grex different? I guess
I don't object to the Grex Board waiving its non-existant wand over
the magical Grex Newsletter. I'm a little confused what it gets us,
thats all. The board could get into trouble over the newsletter if
it started doing 'bad' things, but then again, the grex board could
get in trouble over just about anything else that goes on here, in
this current day and age.
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remmers
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response 91 of 108:
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Jan 26 20:58 UTC 1995 |
Well, I'd hope anybody putting out something called a Grex newsletter
would have the courtesy to ask if it was okay. I don't mean to
imply that the board would scrutinize it article by article and line
by line.
I'd prefer a minimalist board, actually.
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kentn
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response 92 of 108:
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Jan 26 23:31 UTC 1995 |
Think of the board as a publisher. The publisher lets the editors
do their thing (unless and until they get "out of control" in the
publisher's opinion), and sanctions the whole process (by word and by
financing). Literally, the board does little more than sit back and
watch the newsletters come out. And given Grex's overall opinion of
censorship, I doubt that there will be any criticism of the newsletter
by the board for any thing it publishes. It's just better to have one
"official" newsletter that has been granted the right to use the Grex
and/or Cyberspace Comm. Inc. name. This doesn't prevent others from
starting their own newsletters, either. Part of the reason for this
newsletter (I think) was to bring the users closer to the culture and
behind-the-scenes activity of Grex, in the hopes that more people would
contribute their time, money, and ideas to making Grex better. Those
reading the newsletter will be better able to trust what is published
in it if it is the official Grex newsletter, in name, if not in content.
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rcurl
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response 93 of 108:
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Jan 27 07:26 UTC 1995 |
Hear! Hear!
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rcurl
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response 94 of 108:
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Feb 9 17:32 UTC 1995 |
An item to create the newsletter is on the board agenda for 2/15. Here
is a draft motion, for discussion:
"MOVED: A newsletter is authorized for the purpose of disseminating
information and news about Cyberspace Communications Inc, and Grex.
A newsletter editorial committee is created, with members chosen by
the committee chair (called the Editor) appointed by the board. The
name of the newsletter will be chosen by on-line discussion, and a
vote of the members."
A subsequent motion would be made to appoint the newsletter Editor.
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nephi
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response 95 of 108:
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Feb 10 20:48 UTC 1995 |
Wow! I would love to write for the newsletter! I love giving directions
to newbies and this could really be neat. How does this sound:
Nephi's Nifty Newbie Nuggets?
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steve
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response 96 of 108:
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Feb 11 03:39 UTC 1995 |
r
I like that!
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kentn
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response 97 of 108:
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Feb 11 03:54 UTC 1995 |
Go for it, nephi!
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andyv
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response 98 of 108:
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Feb 12 12:36 UTC 1995 |
Nephi, enter it as an item in grexnews. while you are at it, after all
your reading about Grex history, you might write an article as a summary
for the rest of us who don't have the time to do the hunting :-)
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rcurl
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response 99 of 108:
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Feb 16 16:40 UTC 1995 |
The board, at its meeting last night, authorized a newsletter. They chose not
to specify how an editor, or a name for the newsletter, are to be chosen.
Some users have expressed in this item an interest in participating in
organizing and producing a newsletter: this Item can continue to be a
place for that discussion. I am entering a new Item, though, for naming
the newsletter.
Who would like to participate, and how do we get the newsletter started?
(Several prior responses have already offered specific suggestions.)
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