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remmers
response 75 of 141: Mark Unseen   May 26 16:48 UTC 1995

(You type "browse forgotten" at the Ok prompt.)
adbarr
response 76 of 141: Mark Unseen   May 26 22:38 UTC 1995

I do not need any machine to help me forget! I just do it all by
myself, without any of those <classified> UNIX things. [You do
know that the "Cold War" is virtually over?"] 
freida
response 77 of 141: Mark Unseen   May 31 02:38 UTC 1995

No, i didn't know about the   forget    command!  THANKS *hugs*
kerouac
response 78 of 141: Mark Unseen   May 31 23:46 UTC 1995

  All these suggestions are fine and good but a lot of people, 
particularly new users, arent going to know these things.  And I
have yet to read any objections to the idea of archiving agora
more often.  This would solve a lot of the problems, and perhaps 
keep this conf from ever having more than 100 items in it at any one
time.  I think that's reasonable.
rcurl
response 79 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 06:04 UTC 1995

Well, let me be the first (you'll notice, perhaps): I object to
archiving agora more often because the seasonal basis is unique.
It is no problem if you *forget* most of the items - just reduce
them to whatever you'd like - maybe 20? - by entering   forget
at the RorP prompt for the others. Then it will be nearly *identical*
to more frequent archiving, with the added advantage that *you* can
select the contents/tone of the agora you read. And, what does this
thread have to do with VOTEing for the name of the grex newsletter?
Wrong item, perhaps? Myabe someone should have suggested "Just Forget"
for the newsletter... 8^?
peacefrg
response 80 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 14:59 UTC 1995

Speakiing of which, when does summer Agora start?
mju
response 81 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 15:10 UTC 1995

Probably on June 21, the official start of summer.
ajax
response 82 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 16:58 UTC 1995

  Re 79, if you like seasonal restarts because they're unique, then how about 
having 2*pi restarts per year?  It, too, would be unique, and I think the
timing might be a bit better.
remmers
response 83 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 11:31 UTC 1995

Re the vote:  Rane, when the time comes that the votes should be counted,
please remind me and I'll do so.  As I indicated elsewhere, the vote
directory is open and anyone can look at it, but not all the vote files
are publicly readable because of the way some people set their umasks.
So I'll have to read them as 'voteadm'.
selena
response 84 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 14:35 UTC 1995

        Actually, I have the opposite problem- Agora is so ridiculous that
I don't ever go there anymore.. so when someone finds something that they
think should be linked FROM agora to the cf I'm in, I'm most appreciative.
        Hey- I can't vote, and I read <and speak in> coop. I don't
see why others shouldn't do the same, time permitting.

peacefrg
response 85 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 14:54 UTC 1995

Yeah, I'm not a member and I read coop. I like the idea of more turnovers
as well. Agora gets to big. I have about 20 forgotton items and it
still takes almost an hour to do all of my bbsing.
rcurl
response 86 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 21:41 UTC 1995

Yes, you can vote selena - for the newsletter name. And, why don't both of
you forget everything *except* 20 +/- items in agora? (I keep saying this,
but people seem to think it would not *be* agora unless it had all 150+
items readable. But you can make *your* agora with only 20, or fewer,
items. What would you have to lose that you don't lose by not reading
anything in agora?)

mju
response 87 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 21:54 UTC 1995

Perhaps they're afraid that they'll miss something if they
forget any items.
remmers
response 88 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 22:14 UTC 1995

More than they'd miss by not reading it at all?
kerouac
response 89 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 23:35 UTC 1995

  rcurl, some items, like this one for instance, have changed 
completely since they were started.  This is no longer anything to do
with the newsletter.  One might have typed "forget" after the first
response, but then one would have missed what has turned into a
substantive item.  Dont act like "forget" is a complete answer because
it is not, there is a lot of stuff that it might cause people to miss!
nephi
response 90 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 06:34 UTC 1995

Hmm . . . and it seems like not using it causes people to miss 
things too.  Personally, I rarely use forget because I *am* 
afraid of missing something, but see it as a valuable tool for 
a time-constrained person.  

I also think that Valerie's idea of putting Agora last on one's 
.cflist is a Most Excellent idea, too.  
rcurl
response 91 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 08:03 UTC 1995

Dharma, this item is not longer about the VOTE because it is no longer
needed. The vote is proceeding, and will reach a conclusion. Everyone
is reminded of it in the motd. Hence, we can talk about what we like.
But of course, its is all drift, so you better forget it. Unless, of
course, you like drift. I think that is the main reason people can
bring themselves to forget items instead of not reading the cf at all:
they would *know* all that drift is swirling around unseen while they
read only selected drift, and they just can stand it.
carson
response 92 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 08:28 UTC 1995

re #91: s/can/can't :)
rcurl
response 93 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 19:33 UTC 1995

Thank you...how alert you were at that hour :).
ajax
response 94 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 13:30 UTC 1995

  In an information society, selectivity is a survival skill.  If you're
worried about missing possibly Important Stuff in Agora, you're going to
have to read everything...that's a personal choice.  You can make reading
everything easier by having people enter fewer responses...that's what
more Agora restarts would do, as it would be reduce the average number of
active items.  I think there are some good reasons to have more frequent
restarts, but I don't think "gotta read everything but can't keep up" is
one of 'em.
peacefrg
response 95 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 14:52 UTC 1995

Rane, I have 20 forgotton because I don't like them.
I read the other items because I do like them.
popcorn
response 96 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 15:59 UTC 1995

This response has been erased.

davel
response 97 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 21:53 UTC 1995

My own judgment is that more frequent Agora restarts would *increase* the
average number of active items.  On the whole, items seem to get entered
more quickly soon after a restart.  When there get to be dozens of items,
people are more hesitant to just add another item.
rcurl
response 98 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 06:42 UTC 1995

..and decrease the quality of the items, since they will not be long
for this world. In addition, I have not noticed any reluctance of users
to enter new items even after there are scores of items, not just dozens.
davel
response 99 of 141: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 10:16 UTC 1995

"more hesitant", not "hesitant".  Fewer people enter 3 & 4 items at a shot.
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