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marcvh
response 75 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 19:03 UTC 2006

Actually it's "Pine is no-longer Elm."  About twelve years ago I wrote
an essay entitled "Elm Considered Harmful;" most of the reasons still
seem to apply today.
kingjon
response 76 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 19:08 UTC 2006

I did a quick google search on that phrase, turning up no matches. Do you still
have it somewhere?

Back when I was first trying out Grex I tried pine and didn't like it.

(From what my dad said the last time I was home, Red Hat Fedora Core no longer
ships with Elm.)
marcvh
response 77 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 19:16 UTC 2006

It's item 116 in jellyware.  Mind the cobwebs.
kingjon
response 78 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 19:17 UTC 2006

Ah. I'll go look; I was bored a couple of days ago and did a "r all" in
jellyware but didn't get that far.

kingjon
response 79 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 19:29 UTC 2006

All right, I've read it. I can agree with some of your criticisms, but I've
gotten the habits needed to use elm in my fingers, and I've also got 58
megabytes of old messages on my Linux box in elm mailbox format.

kingjon
response 80 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 00:21 UTC 2006

(And "man pine" implies it stands for "a Program for Internet News and Email.")

twenex
response 81 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 13:40 UTC 2006

That's because they pointy-haired it for the suits.

Even if distro x does not include program y, it can always be downloaded from
server z in source form; sorry, but "./configure && make && make install" is
NOT hard.
albaugh
response 82 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 18:19 UTC 2006

Unless there is some next-level config I haven't set up, the only headers mail
lets you edit via ~h are Subject: To: Cc: and Bcc:
kingjon
response 83 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 02:48 UTC 2006

I've tried out Pine, and it a) appears to have some features I could definitely
use but b) still has the (IMO) counterproductive interface. I've now installed
it (along with mh) on my Linux box.

keesan
response 84 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 13:15 UTC 2006

Have you tried mutt?
jep
response 85 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 13:26 UTC 2006

Is there a way to download an image file in Lynx?
keesan
response 86 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 13:32 UTC 2006

Go to that link and type D and then decide where to save it to.
kingjon
response 87 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 14:11 UTC 2006

Re #84: Yes, but I had even more trouble with it. Pine is usable, just
backwards in the way the user has to do things; Mutt I couldn't even get to
work.

jep
response 88 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 15:44 UTC 2006

re resp:86: Thanks, Sindi!
keesan
response 89 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 20:17 UTC 2006

Try reading the instructions for mutt.  It worked for me on my computer.  At
grex it kept moving all my mail to some other place on exit.
kingjon
response 90 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 20:27 UTC 2006

Re #89: I followed what instructions I had. (IIRC this was in some point when I
was on the residence hall network here but for some reason was using
BasicLinux.) What I *wanted* to do was set it up to connect to the college mail
server (which uses IMAP) like Evolution or other graphical mail clients would,
but I couldn't get it to work at all.

keesan
response 91 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 22:28 UTC 2006

I don't think Mutt does IMAP, but Pine does.
tod
response 92 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 22:33 UTC 2006

mutt did/does IMAP ever since version 1.4
in your .muttrc
mailboxes = imap://hostname/mailbox
I have several pop and imap setting for my mailbox variable in mutt...
keesan
response 93 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 02:00 UTC 2006

Can you teach jon to use mutt?
tod
response 94 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 05:30 UTC 2006

can i teach an old mutt trick?  nyuk nyuk
jep
response 95 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 20:47 UTC 2006

re resp:86: I can't point to the picture I want to download (in Lynx).  
When I use "D" it saves a .gz file so I think I am not pointing at the 
image correctly.  Are there images on some pages which cannot be viewed?
albaugh
response 96 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 20:50 UTC 2006

If mutt doesn't work, try jeff
mcnally
response 97 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 21:44 UTC 2006

 re #95:  a .gz file is probably compressed with gzip.
jep
response 98 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 14:05 UTC 2006

Yep.  It was a gzip-compressed file.  The contents were not an image.
rcurl
response 99 of 139: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 20:07 UTC 2006

My Deskwriter 540 seems to have died. I would like to get a replacement 
inkjet printer that will print only black, or if it can also print color 
will work without a color cartridge in it, and uses a black cartridge that 
can be refilled. Neither of these specs are noted in the descriptions of 
any printers I have looked at on online merchants.

It must also work with Macs....although this is generally true of all 
printers with USB interfaces. (An ethernet interface would be even better, 
but printers with those seem to be pretty pricey.)

A laser printer isn't out of the question but an inkjet is most 
satisfactory and certainly cheaper.

Any suggestions?



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