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tod
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response 75 of 116:
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Aug 30 20:09 UTC 2003 |
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jaklumen
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response 76 of 116:
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Aug 30 20:55 UTC 2003 |
It always seemed like shooting oneself in the foot to me: murder for
so-called murder, if that was the rationale.
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tod
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response 77 of 116:
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Aug 31 14:40 UTC 2003 |
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jaklumen
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response 78 of 116:
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Aug 31 22:52 UTC 2003 |
And yet such an ironic comparison: these are the nuts that pretty much
think that those 'towel-heads' should convert to Jeez-us or die.
(Sorry, I couldn't hold back the disdain there.)
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gull
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response 79 of 116:
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Aug 31 23:07 UTC 2003 |
I'm not big on hate-crime laws, either.
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happyboy
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response 80 of 116:
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Sep 1 01:19 UTC 2003 |
re77: by giving them something to live for.
like a bigmac 'n fries!
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russ
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response 81 of 116:
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Sep 1 14:22 UTC 2003 |
I believe I'm on record as opposing hate-crime laws; if there
is no separate crime of conspiracy, a given crime ought to be
punished the same.
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bru
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response 82 of 116:
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Sep 2 16:36 UTC 2003 |
I agree. I even think it is wrong to offer more severe sentences to those
who kill police. In my opinion, police are no more important than anyone
else. Our job isn't even more dangerous than some others out there.
And you generally have to hate someone to murder them.
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tod
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response 83 of 116:
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Sep 2 16:51 UTC 2003 |
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bru
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response 84 of 116:
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Sep 2 19:36 UTC 2003 |
most officers never have to drawa gun and shoot in the line of duty. Most
psychological damage to officers comes from having to deal with the after
effects of a crime on the survivors. alcoholism only exacerbates the problem.
Stress is not what we are dealing with here. WE are dealiing with the value
of a human life. No life is more omportant than any other life, adn the
punishment should be the same under the same circumstances.
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tod
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response 85 of 116:
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Sep 2 20:01 UTC 2003 |
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bru
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response 86 of 116:
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Sep 3 00:33 UTC 2003 |
All crime attacks the basic infrasturcture of society. Why is the clerk at
the Holiday Inn with three kids and a husband worth less than the 50 year old
divorced alcoholic cop?
She isn't.
Both deserve justice.
Now, who should decide what justice is? Should it not be the same as what
they committed? If they killed someone, then death. OR, at the behest of
the family that lost the loved one, life in prison.
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jmsaul
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response 87 of 116:
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Sep 3 02:46 UTC 2003 |
If you're a believer in deterrence, the argument for stronger penalties for
crimes against certain people is that there's more temptation to attack those
people, so more deterrence is required to dissuade potential attackers. That
applies pretty well to cops, since their job requires them to interfere with
violent people.
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rcurl
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response 88 of 116:
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Sep 3 05:39 UTC 2003 |
Re #86: no, it should not be "the same as what they committed". There is
an enormous range of culpability for any crime, which must be taken into
consideration in a civilized society. If someone runs down a person
wandering on the highway on a dark and stormy night, should they be run
down in turn? If you shoot a mugger, should you be shot? Once you admit
that an absolute "eye for an eye" is not right, then you are having to
draw distinctions and make judgements and discover your own morality and
not necessarily adopt the morality of a criminal.
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bru
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response 89 of 116:
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Sep 3 21:55 UTC 2003 |
the problem with an eye for an eye is that it is a limit, not a goal.
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tod
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response 90 of 116:
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Sep 3 22:09 UTC 2003 |
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mynxcat
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response 91 of 116:
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Sep 3 22:37 UTC 2003 |
Lol
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drew
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response 92 of 116:
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Sep 4 02:45 UTC 2003 |
I thought it was klg that had the multiple personalities.
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scott
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response 93 of 116:
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Sep 4 14:32 UTC 2003 |
Granted things are usually/always more complicated than the sort of orguments
we use here...
My beef with extra effort to catch cop-killers is that it implies that the
police normally don't try that hard to catch non-cop-killers.
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tod
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response 94 of 116:
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Sep 4 18:37 UTC 2003 |
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scott
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response 95 of 116:
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Sep 4 18:41 UTC 2003 |
Oh, OK. I was skimming to catch up after being on vacation.
However, that gets me wondering about whether there's any special sentencing
for rogue/corrupt cops, and whether that would be a good idea or not.
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tod
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response 96 of 116:
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Sep 4 19:30 UTC 2003 |
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russ
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response 97 of 116:
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Sep 5 02:30 UTC 2003 |
My beef with treatment of cops as exalted beings is that too many
of them are brutes and even murderers, and people should not be
threatened with capital punishment for defending themselves against
a criminal who happens to be wearing a badge.
http://denvercopwatch.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=3/
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gull
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response 98 of 116:
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Sep 5 13:38 UTC 2003 |
The brother of a friend of mine successfully defended himself in court
from a charge that he'd thrown a rock at a Denver cop. The cop
apparently saw the rock, but not who had thrown it, and just grabbed the
nearest guy.
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tod
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response 99 of 116:
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Sep 5 16:22 UTC 2003 |
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