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jp2
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response 75 of 144:
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Apr 16 14:54 UTC 2002 |
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brighn
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response 76 of 144:
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Apr 16 14:54 UTC 2002 |
I agree with Slynne.
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brighn
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response 77 of 144:
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Apr 16 14:58 UTC 2002 |
#75> How is "any form of socialism" theft? The Constitution mandates that the
Congress has the right to pass laws to provide for the general welfare without
specifying exactly what the general welfare is (or isn't). You are defended
by a socialist army, you drive on socialist roads, most of us were educated
in socialist schools, you are protected from crime (poorly) by a socialist
police force.
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gull
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response 78 of 144:
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Apr 16 15:01 UTC 2002 |
Re #72: If everyone who is currently poor "quit being poor", the economy
would collapse. But you know that.
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jp2
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response 79 of 144:
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Apr 16 15:35 UTC 2002 |
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jmsaul
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response 80 of 144:
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Apr 16 15:51 UTC 2002 |
Actually, "taking someone and giving to another" is slavery.
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jp2
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response 81 of 144:
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Apr 16 15:55 UTC 2002 |
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slynne
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response 82 of 144:
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Apr 16 16:00 UTC 2002 |
I dont like to imagine the kind of world Jamie wants to live in. I get
the feeling, though, that he would like to live in some kind of
corporate feudal system because he has a delusion that he is cunning
enough to be powerful in such a world.
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jp2
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response 83 of 144:
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Apr 16 16:02 UTC 2002 |
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jp2
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response 84 of 144:
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Apr 16 16:04 UTC 2002 |
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slynne
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response 85 of 144:
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Apr 16 16:34 UTC 2002 |
re#84 Oh sorry. I dont consider socialism to be theft. I have a very
good understanding of basic social dynamics.
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jp2
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response 86 of 144:
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Apr 16 16:37 UTC 2002 |
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slynne
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response 87 of 144:
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Apr 16 17:12 UTC 2002 |
I disagree. I think you have no heart and no brain. You certainly arent
a better person.
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jp2
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response 88 of 144:
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Apr 16 17:22 UTC 2002 |
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brighn
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response 89 of 144:
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Apr 16 17:44 UTC 2002 |
Geez, children, honestly...
I think your argument on theft, Jamie, belongs in the "begging the question"
thread. you did leave one question lay, so I'll ask it overtly:
Do you use the public roads, Jamie? If so, do you curse constantly and
self-righteously about it, or do you just use them without a thought?
Either way, if you use them at all, you're stealing from me. I demand that
you identify the patch of road that your own taxes paid for and use it
exclusively.
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jp2
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response 90 of 144:
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Apr 16 17:47 UTC 2002 |
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jp2
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response 91 of 144:
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Apr 16 17:51 UTC 2002 |
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flem
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response 92 of 144:
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Apr 16 17:59 UTC 2002 |
#88 is, ironically enough, an excellent example of begging the question. I,
for one, find this quite amusing. :)
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jp2
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response 93 of 144:
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Apr 16 18:18 UTC 2002 |
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brighn
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response 94 of 144:
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Apr 16 18:27 UTC 2002 |
#91> The idea behind universal health care is that it would be available
equally to whatever American citizens wanted it. That makes it even more
defensible under your position than public roads, because non-citizens do not
get taxed for roads, but they may use them.
Unless you are confined to your domicile, you must use the public roads. If
you don't drive a car down them, surely you walk across them from time to
time.
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jp2
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response 95 of 144:
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Apr 16 18:32 UTC 2002 |
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flem
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response 96 of 144:
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Apr 16 19:23 UTC 2002 |
re #93: not necessarily.
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keesan
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response 97 of 144:
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Apr 16 20:16 UTC 2002 |
If the roads were not there I would not have to cross them to get places.
Non-citizens do get taxed for public roads if they are paying income tax, or
property tax, or gasoline tax, or rent.
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jp2
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response 98 of 144:
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Apr 16 20:58 UTC 2002 |
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senna
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response 99 of 144:
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Apr 16 21:26 UTC 2002 |
#97: In many cases you would not be able to get places at all. You'd also
be on your own if your house ever caught fire or you wanted police assistance
within a certain time limit or you needed emergency medical attention.
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