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carson
response 75 of 82: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:14 UTC 1995

never mind. I've forgotten the incident, the "players", so I might as
well forget the item too. :)
carson
response 76 of 82: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:45 UTC 1995

my apologies; I'm feeling a tad wishy-washy today. I can't make up
my mind: should I stay or should I go? <great song, BTW> I think
I'll state:

1) I think the item would have been retired long ago if selena truly
   held the sentiments she claims to.

2) I'd have expurgated my comments long ago if I'd felt that they were
   "inappropriate", "out-of-character", or "no longer valid."

3) I really can't imagine why this would be the very first time that
   morgayn has seen anything posted by me. I *doubt* that this is the
   first time that she's been in conferences, and I *REALLY DOUBT* that
   this was the *VERY FIRST ITEM* she came to in this conference. Of
   course, if she wants to be ignorant, who am I to keep her from that?
   I practice it myself every once in a while.

4) a note to future readers of this item: if there are any points of
   mine which you feel that I have not stated clearly nor to your
   satisfaction, point them out. I will clarify them for you.

5) for the record, I don't feel all that hostile towards selena. I
   believe that hostility takes a little more care than I wish to have
   for selena. she's just another user to me. she has every right to be
   on this system, to express her views, and to make her comments, as do
   I. I was content when she was here, I was content when she left, and
   I'll continue to be content for as long as she is or isn't here. It
   really doesn't matter.

6) I believe that when I engaged in personal attacks in this particualr
   item, it was only in response to those levelled against me. You should
   note that I really didn't wish to say all that much until later, as the
   item progressed, at which point I felt as if I were arguing against
   slavery in a 1800's Alabama courtroom. No one supported my views here.
   I didn't ask anyone to. I'm a big boy and more than capable of defending
   my own viewpoint without rounding up a virtual lynch mob.

My eyes have been opened in a lot of ways. I'm beginning to see how petty
people can be, and how thin the veneer of friendliness really is. I no
longer feel a need to be excessively courteous nor respectful, because I
doubt that I will get the same from the average person. Blah blah, blah blah.

brighn
response 77 of 82: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 18:28 UTC 1995

Carson, take your ice cube.  You're being bitter again.  :)
Being the one who led the personal attacks against you, I responded as I 
usually do:  emotions first, mind only after pressing ".".  Those who have
been watching me will note that I haven't been doing that nearly as much
lately, but I overreacted.  You seem to bring that out, Carson.  Nothing
against  you; we just don't seem to hit it off all that well.

Your view is a valid one:  confs are supposed to be fairly open areas, and
for serious discussion of things (except the drift confs, and this isn't one),
and it is occasionally annoying when people bring personal stuff onto the
confs (like we're doing right now).  My reaction to your #2 or whatever
was based on misunderstanding.  <Bad Brighn!  No biscuit!>

At any rate, I'm still waiting for that make-up smooch.  :)
carson
response 78 of 82: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 18:30 UTC 1995

well, no, we don't hit it off well at all anymore, so I really don't
think I should rush into a relationship with you so soon... I mean,
sex doesn't really save relationships, does it? I think we'll have to
settle for that one night Mexican standoff... :)
brighn
response 79 of 82: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 18:42 UTC 1995

"Anymore"?  Actually, I don't remember ever talking to you, Carson.
Odd, that... you've been around so much, as have I.
And your eyes... I never noticed how... beautifufl... they are.
 :)
selena
response 80 of 82: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 19:27 UTC 1995

        Oh, gods! I make an item, and we get a new romance going.

        Retire the item? >>>D'OH!!!<<< STUPID BRAIN! Why didn't *I* think
of that? <probably because I was always too pissed off when I read
anything from here, until recently, to think straight...>

        Carson, good idea. <Selena wishes you'd have brought it up sooner>

morgayn
response 81 of 82: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 18:11 UTC 1995

Well, in going back and reading what I wrote, I would say that I wrongfully
insulted carson. I apologize, carson, because amidst all the burning wreckage
of my brain as I was acting before thinking, I realize that as well as I, you
need to hold your opinion as well. You think what you think, so be it. I can
not properly judge you based on a few posts posted in one cf. So therefore, I
hereby withdraw my decision forced upon your character... I need not judge
you, for as you have stated, you are just another user with as much right as
I. I have admitted my mistake, publicly, and I apologize to carson, and to
future readers.
   However, I also have the right to defend myself against carson's incorrect
remarks...no, this is not the first item I came to in this cf, but out of the
random #'s I typed in, this is the first which has held a response from you.
As for being in other cf's, yes, but I spend the bulk of mine in the music
cf, and any other cf's I have been in generally do not include more than three
items which I read on a regular basis...none of which have ever contained
your postings. So while you may call me ignorant, please remember, you are
ALWAYS ignorant to what other people do when you are not around and what they
are truly thinking. So please do not attempt to categorize me, I do not keep
up with cf on a regular basis, nor do I generally see your posts in the areas
I frequent at all.
   Now then, I have apologized, and I have defended myself. Any further
discussions from me in this item will be self-prohibited. So if the arguing
need continue, let it not include my name.
amoco
response 82 of 82: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 23:08 UTC 1995

DONT LEAVE WE LOVE YOU WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
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