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davel
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response 75 of 98:
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Jul 17 17:32 UTC 1996 |
Having caller ID has in fact been discussed on occasion, just because of
concerns that we could get into trouble, & the fact that Ameritech keeps its
own logs seems like good enough reason not to bother.
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janc
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response 76 of 98:
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Jul 17 19:43 UTC 1996 |
Right. These days, the best way to be anonymous on Grex is to dial in. If
you got into doing something seriously illegal, you could still be traced
because law enforcement people can get records of your calls from Ameritech.
This is a bit extreme for tracking down party pests though.
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brighn
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response 77 of 98:
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Jul 17 21:29 UTC 1996 |
Everyone dials in to somewhere,
or they use networked computers which are usually even harder to track down
(University Unions, etc.).
The issue was, how anonymous is the Net, not how anonymous is Grex....
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adbarr
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response 78 of 98:
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Jul 18 00:41 UTC 1996 |
brign stated the issue well. I just want to know who is steaming open
my mail, etc.. Steam away, but not in the dark. "Mail" is a symbol.
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janc
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response 79 of 98:
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Jul 18 06:04 UTC 1996 |
Many people dial in somewhere, but most times they don't have an account
unless they have very clearly identified themselves to the place they dial
into.
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brighn
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response 80 of 98:
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Jul 18 15:30 UTC 1996 |
There are places in Michigan, for instance, to dial in without an account?
News to me. Every place *I've* called does.
Maybe in other parts of the country, but not in Michigan, not anymore, and
I'd heard Michigan used to be one of the *easiest* places to get unauthorized
access.
Now, if you instead want to argue that many of the haqrs are using stolen or
borrowed accounts, that I'd buy. =} When I'm in the Detroit area, I use a
friend's system simply because access is easier.
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danr
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response 81 of 98:
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Jul 18 16:12 UTC 1996 |
So, who wants to be memebership chairperson?
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srw
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response 82 of 98:
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Jul 19 02:08 UTC 1996 |
Doesn't look like anyone wants the job.
There are free internet accesss terminals at the library.
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wfy
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response 83 of 98:
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Jul 19 02:18 UTC 1996 |
Have you ever been on any Asian country ?
There are many non-profit organizations in Hong Kong, Japan, and Korea.
Fortunately, there are no (perhaps never) Asia-American or Africa-American on
Grex staffers' name list. Otherwise .......
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srw
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response 84 of 98:
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Jul 19 04:38 UTC 1996 |
Why is that fortunate?
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pfv
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response 85 of 98:
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Jul 19 05:11 UTC 1996 |
Somehow, I can't seem to decrypt that "wfy"s text... It was either an
ATTEMPT at a compliment or a backhanded slap at some percieved racism..
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srw
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response 86 of 98:
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Jul 19 05:53 UTC 1996 |
Do not be too harsh on wfy's text. She is not a native speaker of English,
and I am pleased she is going to the trouble of responding here. If something
doesn't make sense a few simple questions should sort it out.
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omni
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response 87 of 98:
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Jul 19 06:11 UTC 1996 |
Well, offered way way back there, and no one commented.
Like I said before, I bring 4 yrs af being on Grex to the job. I should know
what works and what won't.
<Waves a BIG red flag>
Yes, I want the job!!
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pfv
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response 88 of 98:
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Jul 19 06:12 UTC 1996 |
ummm... that wasn't "harsh", merely a n attempted analysis of the syntax
and content...
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scg
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response 89 of 98:
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Jul 19 06:18 UTC 1996 |
I think omni would be good at this. Go for it!
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aruba
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response 90 of 98:
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Jul 19 09:08 UTC 1996 |
I think we had three or four volunteers, and Jim seems most adamant. I also
think Jim will do a good job. Perhaps the board should take some action on
at the next meeting?
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steve
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response 91 of 98:
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Jul 19 20:15 UTC 1996 |
Paul, in #73 you asked why its hard to find twits at times. Besides
the fact that others have mentioned local dialins being reletively hard
to trace, there is another problem, that being that many other sites,
maybe even *most* other sites are so innefficient at figuring out who
did what when as to be useless. There are many times that I've sent
mail to a site concerning a user, and that administrators of that
site never respnded. Or, after repeated poking, would say, "I'm sorry,
we don't keep log files longer than nn days" and that would be it.
There *are* some places that have responded in a timely manner, and
we've been halped by those. Unforunately, I really do think that most
places are just barely capable of keeping their sites on the air, and
don't have the extra expertise available to help track down problems.
As far as "How anonymous is the Net" goes, I'd say that most places
are entrely tracable, *provided the tracing is done quickly* in the
event of a problem. There are still pockets of unauthenticated net
sites, but they do seem to be disappearing. Lately I've notied that
most of them seem to be in libraries, where the tools they use (Macs
and Windows machines) don't readily accomodate authentication systems.
...The sad part about it is that as various sites have abandonded
their anonymous systems, its put more pressure upon the remaining sites
that still offer such. Grex, being half way inbetween the two can
remain just as it is for quite a while, I think, barring government
mandate.
TO get this item back on track: I think Jim would make a good
membership chair.
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aruba
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response 92 of 98:
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Jul 19 21:51 UTC 1996 |
I requested that this be put on the agenda for the next board meeting.
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scott
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response 93 of 98:
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Jul 24 16:15 UTC 1996 |
Well, I'm a little late in posting this, but Jim (omni) *has* been appointed
as membership chair.
Congratulations, omni!
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omni
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response 94 of 98:
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Jul 24 17:23 UTC 1996 |
Thanks. I will do my best to do a good job.
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srw
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response 95 of 98:
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Jul 26 03:05 UTC 1996 |
The minutes will reflect this when the secretary gets off his duff and posts
them.
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snafu
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response 96 of 98:
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Aug 10 00:32 UTC 1996 |
I'm willing to help if omni needs it (Does he?)
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srw
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response 97 of 98:
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Aug 10 05:24 UTC 1996 |
Omni has indicated that he would love some help. I believe he has set up a
new conference to organize the committee to boost membership. If I remember
right, the conference can be found by typimng "join member"
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omni
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response 98 of 98:
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Aug 10 06:19 UTC 1996 |
I need lots of help. All those interested in helping and being on the
committee should e-mail me, and join the membership conf.
I want to form a committee, and use the conference to glean suggestions from
the rest of the users.
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