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Grex > Coop11 > #69: Making newuser less intimidating? | |
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mdw
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response 75 of 79:
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Mar 17 00:56 UTC 1999 |
There's a difference between "having an objection to e-mail only users",
and favouring e-mail only users. If we really wanted to make life easy
for those e-mail only users, we'd run imapd, popper, and a more
promiscuous sendmail configuration. We'd probably also put some work
into a web interface into e-mail, and we'd do something about supporting
user administrated mailing lists. All these things would help a lot
more than "improving" newuser for e-mail only users, most of it is
well-known, well-tested, and available technology, and the demand exists
out there on the internet: there is no technical reason why we couldn't
do all these things, and have a lot more users as a result.
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devnull
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response 76 of 79:
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Mar 17 03:57 UTC 1999 |
I suppose marcus delibrately failed to mention that doing that probalby
also would increase the load on grex unbearably?
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pfv
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response 77 of 79:
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Mar 17 15:42 UTC 1999 |
You could ask john, but.. he installed what I called a
"bitchslap() module" to popper.c, and it drastically changed the
load pop3 was adding..
Essentially, it checked if a user was using .forward - and refused
to upload mail; and it checked the users pop3 filedate, and
refused to upload if the user had already checked within a
<programmer-defined> time-interval.
This stopped promiscuis forwarders from running pop3, and also
whacked the dolts that checked their mail every minute or so..
At the cost of just letting popper construct the initial user-
record and testing for one file, and the datestamp on another.
It had zero affect on the forwarded mail, and that was another
issue I'd have addressed, had he remained root.
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lilmo
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response 78 of 79:
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Apr 14 01:09 UTC 1999 |
Re #76: I think marcus's point was that the reasons we do not do those things
are not *technical*. Beyond that, I was lost. I just read this entire item,
from resp:0 to resp:77, and I think my eyes glazed more than once. :-)
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gypsi
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response 79 of 79:
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Jun 1 06:47 UTC 1999 |
<laugh> Way back there, someone asked if Ctrl-C is ever used. I use it when
I get stuck in the noise list or when tailing a party log (it ends it).
I remember geting a bit confused in .newuser, but the explanations were
helpful. For example, it says "Pick this if you're unfamiliar with Unix".
The part that made *my* eyes glaze over was reading the long list of
principles, etc. ;-)
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