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richard
response 73 of 334: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 21:52 UTC 2010

re #71, 72 thats bs. someone suggesting an idea, with enthusiasm, is 
not being obnoxious.  Neither of you are helping grex by over-reacting 
to such posts.  
twinkie
response 74 of 334: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 21:59 UTC 2010

I don't know why you're lumping me in there. 

I am very enthusiastic about Grex getting a million dollars. I'm being quite
helpful, in fact, and here you go, shooting down my wonderful idea!

And believe you me, I'm not being obnoxious when I tell you that's wrong.
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

kentn
response 75 of 334: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 22:12 UTC 2010

I've seen a lot of good suggestions, by the way, and am trying to keep
an open mind about which ones we can reasonably do.  Keep entering them
as you think of them.  It's getting agreement and the implementation
that take time (and Grex is known to move slowly on both counts). We
are working on some ideas even now (such a determining feasibility and
who could do things).  Enthusiasm is needed more than ever, along with
a sense of urgency about getting things accomplished quickly that will
help improve Grex before it's too late (and I don't think it's too late
yet).
kentn
response 76 of 334: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 22:21 UTC 2010

Hey, it'd be great if we'd get a million dollars and there probably
are ways to do that legally (e.g. a grant).  twinkie, do you have
any line on how we could go about it?
cross
response 77 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 05:06 UTC 2010

I'll help Grex when I get back from Afghanistan next month.
tsty
response 78 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 09:22 UTC 2010

  
got an email faorm a newly validated newuser, rust, wheo said (and approved
the posting of his email):
  
> Thanks. Been here before. For years and years. But, I kinda let the account
lapse having my Debian boxen available.
>
> Grex is HIGHLY useful for checking what robots see, text only browsing with
lynx, checking yer DNS from someplace else, all kinds of things that only a
remote connection can offer. But, since I farmed out hosting to another
company instead of doing it myself (and paying outrageous prices for
dedicated connections)... it just isn't what I used to do.
>
> Heck, I remember when you guys used to cry for parts. I guess I can toss
those 30 pin RAM modules now.
>  
... thoight yu;d all like to know ...
  
kentn
response 79 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 11:44 UTC 2010

Re 77: Thanks, sounds good, Dan!
 
Re 78: Several more things to add to the list of "what can you do on grex?"
I'm glad to see a former user come back.  We need more people like that, as
well as new users.
tsty
response 80 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 20:22 UTC 2010

  
r e 79 ... proactive validatoin at werk.
  
jgelinas
response 81 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 16:27 UTC 2010

Carried over from the Treasurer's Report item, where folks where asking
about using Google for e-mail:

What is the advantage of using GMail for "@cyberspace.org" instead of
"@gmail.com"?  I can see the advantage for an organisation, but what is
the advantage for a user?
mary
response 82 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 18:26 UTC 2010

I think some people really like the cyberspace.org address.  

I can't imagine how anyone would have Grex as his/her primary email 
address.  If Google mail goes down it's for minutes.  If Grex's machine 
died, well, you could be missing a whole lot of mail for a very long time.  
We're simply not an enterprise email system.
tod
response 83 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 19:24 UTC 2010

re #81
 What is the advantage of using GMail for "@cyberspace.org" instead of
 "@gmail.com"?  

I guess you could ask current Grexers if they would use @cyberspace.org
if given a worthy email system.
jep
response 84 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 19:57 UTC 2010

re resp:75: I urge you to keep it open, Kent.  It's a little encouraging
to know someone thinks something is going on.  It might be much more so
to know what it is.  We're all used to feeling like part of the crowd,
not being outsiders looking in on the cool kids.
keesan
response 85 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 21:53 UTC 2010

Grex has the advantage of being a shell account and also having spamassassin
so you can tailor your spam filtering, extract text from attached garbage,
etc.  I use it for freecycle and friends, but for anything that would cause
a problem if it got lost I use other addresses which are less convenient to
use.
yecril71pl
response 86 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 14:23 UTC 2010

Most items on the welcome menu do not work returning unhelpful error messages.
Hyperlinks in Grex help system go to http even for pages that actually reside
within Grex, resulting in broken links because new users cannot go HTTP. 
These are elementary things, not rocket science, and they are repelling to
bump into.
jgelinas
response 87 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 14:38 UTC 2010

Aside:  Whether to use absolute or relative links is always an
interesting question.  The value of the former is that they can be
easily copied from one place to another.  The value of the latter is
that they *can't* be easily copied from one place to another.  
kentn
response 88 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 18:20 UTC 2010

Yes, the web site needs some help with broken links, out of date
information, etc.  And the welcome menu should give better messages if
they aren't helpful.  The easier we make things the better off we'll be
and the happier our users will be.  To appear to be going concern we
need to keep up with issues like these, though we all understand that we
are volunteer run.  Sounds to me like we need to go through several
systems on here (including the web site) and make sure things are still
working and making sense (a never-ending task, it seems).
yecril71pl
response 89 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 19:24 UTC 2010

What is the process for becoming a volunteer?  (I am an easy rider here but
I could technically help)
mary
response 90 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 19:56 UTC 2010

Wow, thanks for being willing to jump in and help!
tsty
response 91 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 05:40 UTC 2010

  
tnx   yecril71pl ... how;s the weathre over there?
  
Domain:   piekna-gts.2a.pl 
IP Address:   217.153.90.242 
ISP:   GTS Polska Sp. z o.o. 
Organization:   Connected by GTS Poland 
Region:   Warsaw (PL) 
  
glasd to hear from ffiernds acorss the puddle.
  
kentn
response 92 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 23:24 UTC 2010

I sent an e-mail to Christopher and we'll see if he responds.
veek
response 93 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 24 13:13 UTC 2010

1. would someone be interested in merging this script with the Grex 
page: http://arbornet.org/~veek/whofingerpeek.cgi

It does who, finger username, and peeks the party.log, via a web 
interface - I've used the Grex home page as a template. Someone on 
staff is working on something for finger but it isn't ready as yet. It 
has a change time of Dec 09 (ls -c -lt).. I'm taking suggestions (color 
changes, open() instead of backticks, limited-runs/minute, 
finger-timeout, etc)

2. Would anyone be interested in a script to add a home page template 
to their home dir? I have created my home-page: 
http://www.grex.org/~veek/ (nothing fancy, but i thought this might be 
useful since ppl can just copy it and modify it - i could do a tutorial 
on this)

3. Tutorial on: 1. No typing password, ssh login. 2. Editing web 
templates. 3. Maybe even a script to populate said template..
mary
response 94 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 24 14:48 UTC 2010

Hey, nice veek!
veek
response 95 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 24 16:19 UTC 2010

thanks :p , most of the hard work was done by the guy (remmers, me 
thinks) who did the main website - the layout and design are super. I 
just knocked out some of his content to make place for that form in the 
center. I'll make it nicer but I think it's pretty safe as is (no .plan 
reading for now).
tsty
response 96 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 24 16:25 UTC 2010

  
re 93   ... vkewl ... couple thoghts ...
  
might want to add a 'select action' notation above the 'action' boxe.
  
reverse, left/rightr, the  submit and lognin id box (first thisndgs first?)
  
and above the looginid box, add 'enter loginid here' directoin.
  
consider alloweing more than 8 chars in logind box ... also, will this work
with a completyly quaiflied identificatoin, such as  mary@cyberspace.org  ?
  
.. assuming more tha 8 chars are alloewed.
  
any particular reaosn the loginid box has a default value ... it;s ok, of
course, just wondering.
  
veek
response 97 of 334: Mark Unseen   Oct 24 17:16 UTC 2010

Re #96: 
1. "select action" - mm.. actually what I could do is create a box like 
so:
------------------------------
1.click here: to select Finger
2.click here: to select Who

I'll prettify that box so it looks nice.

2. "submit" "login" position - ha! that was carefully thought out. Out 
of 3 actions, 2 don't require the login field so I placed it away

3. Oo forgot about @whatevers.. hmm.. validating email addresses 
properly is pretty hard. Simple @cyberspace.org i can easily do. Right 
now it won't - I only allow UNIX id's.. ^[a-zA-Z][a-zA-Z0-9-_.]{1,7}$

4. thought it might be easier to process.. i should have said something 
like: enter loginid to finger, but that's more stuff to bkspace
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