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tod
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response 72 of 153:
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Feb 7 18:56 UTC 2006 |
There is nothing realistic about LOTR, Cliff Notes nor otherwise. Settle
down.
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jep
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response 73 of 153:
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Feb 7 19:41 UTC 2006 |
re resp:71: Just curious, but did you see the recent Chronicles of
Narnia movie, and have you read the book? What was your impression of
how those two compared?
We certainly had very different impressions of the LOTR books and
movies.
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kingjon
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response 74 of 153:
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Feb 7 19:48 UTC 2006 |
Haven't seen the Narnia movie. My one impression -- a promotional "still" in a
review in the newspaper -- wasn't a good sign (there was *not* light coming
from the wardrobe as Lucy opened it) but my brother, who did see it, said that
wasn't actually from the film itself.
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jep
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response 75 of 153:
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Feb 7 20:27 UTC 2006 |
Have you ever seen a movie based on a book which told the story in a
satisfactory way?
I thought the Narnia movie was so close, it was almost unnecessary to
read the book. But then, as I said, I was very impressed with the
handling of the LOTR movies as well.
Generally I consider myself kind of fussy about this sort of thing. I
don't like seeing movies based on books as a rule. Maybe I've gotten
lackadaisical in this area (which is probably a good thing, if it's
true, in my opinion).
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slynne
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response 76 of 153:
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Feb 7 21:41 UTC 2006 |
I havent read The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe in a very long time
but the movie seemed pretty close to me. I certainly enjoyed the movie.
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tod
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response 77 of 153:
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Feb 7 21:47 UTC 2006 |
re #75
Goodfellas did justice to the book Wiseguy, imo
Jarhead was also a good movie representation of the book
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glenda
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response 78 of 153:
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Feb 7 21:49 UTC 2006 |
Pssst, Remmers, I think that you need to start a new item to talk about the
Oscars. This one seems to have been co-opted by things not related to the
current Oscars.
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albaugh
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response 79 of 153:
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Feb 7 22:00 UTC 2006 |
jep, kingjon, et al, I offer you my loremaster knowledge to answer all your
LOTR questions and misunderstandings - but not here in the movie item.
I loved the LOTR movies for the scenery and the bold conception that Jackson
showed for staging etc. I can simultaneously hate parts of it for needless
and sometimes outright stupid changes in the movie from the book which added
no value and sometimes introduced confusion or conflict.
In the movie, the Nazgul "attack" on Frodo & Sam was at the ruined city of
Osgiliath, which sits abreast the river Anduin. Minas Tirith and Minas Morgul
were originally built as outposts, on the edge of the white mountains and
Mordor respectively. They are by no means "just a bridge apart".
As far as the substitution of Arwen for Glorfindel, it was convenient (not
to have to introduce another character), but I also suspect it was PC.
"We've got to have some women fighters!" It was also ridiculous, for many
reasons. There is no way that Elrond would let his daughter go confront the
Nazgul. Further, she had no mystic powers as depicted in the movie, and
Glorfindel was an elf-lord from the Blessed Realm, having a funky "dual
existence" that Arwen and not even Elrond had. Anyway...
As for the hobbits not having much use in the story, you forget (among other
things) that only Merry's use of a weapon, he not being a man, would have any
effect on a Nazgul. Etc. etc.
Bottom line for me is that the movies' spectacular natures far outweighed the
sometimes egregious changes that Jackson made. That's why we have fingers,
to hold our noses temporarily, when necessary. ;-)
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edina
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response 80 of 153:
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Feb 7 22:33 UTC 2006 |
I always felt that "The Godfather" did an amazing job of getting it right
with the book. The movie is like a 6 course meal and the book is 7 courses
- you really don't miss the last course.
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tod
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response 81 of 153:
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Feb 7 22:47 UTC 2006 |
I dunno..I didn't feel they underscored Santino's womanizing nor Michael's
USMC background well enough.
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furs
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response 82 of 153:
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Feb 7 23:16 UTC 2006 |
re 64: Big Shoes??
;)
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tod
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response 83 of 153:
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Feb 7 23:52 UTC 2006 |
The better to Ramble On
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scott
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response 84 of 153:
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Feb 8 02:37 UTC 2006 |
Going back to Tom Bombadil, my guess as to his inclusion was to come up with
both good characters as well as evil - a bit later in the story that's even
stated, that they'll find both friends and enemies in unexpected places. But
he was a side-trip in the story, one I enjoyed a lot. At the council in
Rivendell he was ruled out, mainly because (according to Gandalf) Bombadil
wouldn't leave his small territory.
As to the movie adaption, a lot of the compromises make sense - less
characters overall, occasional skips over side-trips such as Bombadil. More
emphasis on action scenes rather than the long descriptions of scenery found
in the book. Some of the new things don't make any sense at all, such as that
bizarre "horse rescues Aragorn" thing with Arwen in a dream sequence. The
extended edition did explain the horse slightly, but the rest didn't fit the
story or (my opinion) add anything. Having Frodo & Sam at the fighting in
Osgiliath was necessary for the inclusion of Osgiliath in the movie, because
in the book it's just a verbal report from a side-character.
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richard
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response 85 of 153:
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Feb 8 16:02 UTC 2006 |
guys this is the OSCARS item, not the Lord of the Rings item. Put up a
separate item for that.
Jon Stewart is hosting this year's Oscars. He says he is appalled by the
Academy's choice of him to host.
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edina
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response 86 of 153:
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Feb 8 16:26 UTC 2006 |
Hah!
I'm looking forward to the musical productions. I'm wondering who will do
"It Ain't Easy Being a Pimp".
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marcvh
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response 87 of 153:
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Feb 8 17:33 UTC 2006 |
He also wasn't able to produce a new episode of The Daily Show, something
about a new rugrat. I wonder if he'll be able to find a sitter for the
big night?
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richard
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response 88 of 153:
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Feb 8 18:42 UTC 2006 |
the academy producers will probably have to twist Stewart's arm to get him
to not bash Bush in his monologue, and even then he might do it anyway.
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aruba
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response 89 of 153:
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Feb 8 19:11 UTC 2006 |
I predict a lot of gay cowboy jokes at this year's Oscars.
I suspect Arwen's substitution for Glorfindel had less to do with PC-ness
than with marketing. It's hard to get a lot of people interested in going
to see a movie that has no women in it. When i was on my way into the
Michigan Theater to see the third movie, I overheard a woman saying, "I'm
only going to see whether Liv Tyler dies or not." I suspect boosting
Arwen's role increased the Movies' revenue substantially.
I have to agree with jep that as movie adaptations of books go, Peter
Jackson did a very faithful job. Likewise for last fall's Narnia movie.
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richard
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response 90 of 153:
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Mar 2 16:33 UTC 2006 |
Okay, the Oscars are on Sunday. Who has seen all five best picture nominees?
Regrettably I still haven't seen "Crash", which might win. Hope to rent it
this weekend because its out on dvd now.
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remmers
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response 91 of 153:
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Mar 2 16:37 UTC 2006 |
Saw all but "Munich".
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marcvh
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response 92 of 153:
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Mar 2 17:08 UTC 2006 |
Note that Crash has already won a Liberal Guilt Award, which may influence
some academy voters.
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slynne
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response 93 of 153:
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Mar 2 18:26 UTC 2006 |
Haw.
I saw Crash and thought it was ok. I didnt think it was anything
special and was surprised that it was nominated. I liked Brokeback
Mountain much better. Those are the only two of the nominees I have
seen.
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edina
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response 94 of 153:
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Mar 2 18:33 UTC 2006 |
I liked "Crash" but only in the sense of what an afterschool special it
sometimes was.
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johnnie
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response 95 of 153:
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Mar 3 00:24 UTC 2006 |
I'm sorry to say I've seen none of the nominees. In fact, I don't think
I've seen a Best Picture nominee pre-ceremony since "Titanic". If it
weren't for kid movies, I'd have seen none of the nominees in any category.
"Crash" also won the "award" from some bluenose group as the nominee
with the most cursing.
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furs
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response 96 of 153:
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Mar 3 00:26 UTC 2006 |
I've seen Crash and Munich. They were both ok. Haven't seen the
others.
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