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25 new of 870 responses total.
charcat
response 704 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 04:00 UTC 2005

resp #696 yes the old number was a local call. I don't know why I'm so
upset about this, I can use the internet to connect from my home
computer but I know 2 people who can't. How much extra would it cost
grex to keep an ann arbor phone or call forwarding?
gelinas
response 705 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 05:41 UTC 2005

I don't know, but I can probably find out how much it would cost to set up
permanent forwarding.  I'll try to call SBC tomorrow.

One difference between ~krj/.login and ~arbella/.login is:

        if ($?prompt) then
        . . .
        endif

I don't know that that is the problem, though.
aruba
response 706 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 14:40 UTC 2005

I was able to dial in last night, but not this morning.  melanief called to
tell me she still can't connect.

Joe, I think some of the GVC modems were suspect, and we had the best of
them in service before the move.  Are the two that are connected now from
the pool of modems that were in use before, or were they idle?
keesan
response 707 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 16:31 UTC 2005

I could not dial in this morning either.
Steve, are you using dialin service to your ISP or broadband? If broadband,
don't ISPs also let you dialin as well so you can connect when away from home?
gregb
response 708 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 17:49 UTC 2005

Can't speak for all, but Comcast and WOW do not.
albaugh
response 709 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 21:09 UTC 2005

> WARNING: Your mailbox is 87% full.
>   If it reachs 100%, you will no longer be able to receive mail.

It is my experience on nextgrex that this is not true:  Due to being sent
several large attachments at once and SPAM, I know I've well exceeded the
inbox limit (still 1MB?), and yet have been able to receive more mail.
That has proven to be very useful, as there was a time I couldn't run mail
to clear out stuff, due to the low /tmp quota, yet this didn't start
bouncing mail to senders.

OTOH, if the inbox limit isn't enforced, that could allow a big pile up of
junk sent to defunct accounts etc.
keesan
response 710 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 00:28 UTC 2005

I got 'network not supported' first time I tried to ssh here, then the second
time it worked.  Is this something to do with where I am ssh'ing from?
Still cannot dial in.
gelinas
response 711 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 03:54 UTC 2005

The modems are from the active pool.

Last I looked, the mail quota was 5MB.
i
response 712 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 11:12 UTC 2005

Dial-in/modems/problems:
What i'm hearing definitely sounds like continuous, bad line noise.  I've
no problems (& don't hear line noise) dialing other places.  Dunno...i'd
say it must be in the trunk line (vs. "last mile") from what folks are 
saying, but i'd also thought that noisy trunk lines were a thing of the
past.
keesan
response 713 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 17:07 UTC 2005

Could the noise be from using 25' phone cords?  I still can't dial in either.
It has worked twice in the past few days.
gregb
response 714 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 17:19 UTC 2005

Possible, especially if the cord is bundled up.
albaugh
response 715 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 18:28 UTC 2005

> Last I looked, the mail quota was 5MB.

At the time I was given the "100% full" message yesterday, I'm pretty sure
I had nowhere near 5MB worth of mail in the inbox.
gelinas
response 716 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 03:04 UTC 2005

You probably know this, but

        ls -l /var/mail/<loginid>

will show the size of <loginid>'s inbox.
keesan
response 717 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 03:12 UTC 2005

Jim offers to put together a regular phone cable that will plug into the phone
jack at one end and have two jacks for SHORT phone lines at the other end (or
perhaps the cable could plug directly into two modems? - how far apart are
they?).  But first he has to recover from the flu as he cannot do this too
well while in bed.
tsty
response 718 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 20:59 UTC 2005


weird here ....
  
grex% w
 3:52PM  up 3 days,  9:40, 36 users, load averages: 1.08, 0.86, 0.84
USER    TTY FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
volt     p0 tran.adsl.mustan  2:59PM     5 -tcsh
politie  p1 gn-lwb-5c43.adsl  3:49PM     0 (pine)
cross    p3 sl-aafes1-40-0.s  2:42PM     4 -tcsh
tsty     p4 pcp03303701pcs.y  3:45PM     0 w
jvmv     p5 200-203-131-127.  3:16PM     0 gate /c/j/v/jvmv/cf.buffer
smoke    p7 ACD89C61.ipt.aol  3:51PM     1 -bash
jn       p8 port1364.ds1-by.  3:48PM     1 -bash
gudri    p9 -                 3:30PM     0 /usr/local/bin/bbs
vallica  pa 81.12.221.23      3:23PM     0 -bash
test19   pb pcp745288pcs.res  3:10PM     0 vi testing.txt
unix22   pc dup-200-65-13-13  3:36PM     8 vi copiar
cross    pd sl-aafes1-40-0.s  3:46PM     0 screen -r
cross    pe fubar.cshack.net Wed09AM     0 vi minunit.h
marcvh   pf c-24-18-218-42.c  3:27PM    15 -bash
frank60  q0 130.182.168.175   2:45PM     0 -bash
aym      q1 130.182.168.209   2:46PM     0 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/help
radi     q2 83.238.4.98       3:46PM     0 lynx
steve    q4 pcp04149896pcs.s 12:01AM     0 -sh
q76      q5 user6.47.udn.pl   3:51PM     0 -bash
hackerpt ft bl6-11-28.dsl.te Fri05PM     0 -
hackerpt ft bl6-11-28.dsl.te Fri05PM     0 -
hackerpt ft bl6-11-28.dsl.te Fri05PM     0 -
hackerpt ft bl6-11-28.dsl.te Fri05PM     0 -
hackerpt ft bl6-11-28.dsl.te Fri05PM     0 -
hackerpt ft bl6-11-28.dsl.te Fri05PM     0 -
hackerpt ft bl6-11-28.dsl.te Fri05PM     0 -
hackerpt ft bl6-11-28.dsl.te Fri05PM     0 -
hackerpt ft bl6-11-28.dsl.te Fri05PM     0 -
hackerpt ft bl6-11-28.dsl.te Fri05PM     0 -
hackerpt ft bl6-11-28.dsl.te Fri05PM     0 -
hackerpt ft bl6-11-28.dsl.te Fri05PM     0 -
hackerpt ft bl6-11-28.dsl.te Fri05PM     0 -
hackerpt ft bl6-11-28.dsl.te Fri05PM     0 -
hackerpt ft bl6-11-28.dsl.te Fri05PM     0 -
hackerpt ft bl6-11-28.dsl.te Fri05PM     0 -
hackerpt ft bl6-11-28.dsl.te Fri05PM     0 -
grex%


  
plus ...............
  
grex% f -m hackerpt
Login: hackerpt                         Name: hackerpt
Directory: /a/h/a/hackerpt              Shell: /bin/bash
On since Fri Feb 11 17:04 (EST) on ftp13449 (messages off)
    from bl6-11-28.dsl.telepac.pt
On since Fri Feb 11 17:08 (EST) on ftp10539 (messages off)
    from bl6-11-28.dsl.telepac.pt
On since Fri Feb 11 17:08 (EST) on ftp1084 (messages off)
    from bl6-11-28.dsl.telepac.pt
On since Fri Feb 11 17:09 (EST) on ftp3456 (messages off)
    from bl6-11-28.dsl.telepac.pt
On since Fri Feb 11 17:09 (EST) on ftp21571 (messages off)
    from bl6-11-28.dsl.telepac.pt
On since Fri Feb 11 17:09 (EST) on ftp21872 (messages off)
    from bl6-11-28.dsl.telepac.pt
On since Fri Feb 11 17:09 (EST) on ftp15683 (messages off)
    from bl6-11-28.dsl.telepac.pt
On since Fri Feb 11 17:09 (EST) on ftp17847 (messages off)
    from bl6-11-28.dsl.telepac.pt
On since Fri Feb 11 17:09 (EST) on ftp4871 (messages off)
    from bl6-11-28.dsl.telepac.pt
On since Fri Feb 11 17:09 (EST) on ftp26602 (messages off)
    from bl6-11-28.dsl.telepac.pt
On since Fri Feb 11 17:09 (EST) on ftp440 (messages off)
    from bl6-11-28.dsl.telepac.pt
On since Fri Feb 11 17:09 (EST) on ftp24252 (messages off)
    from bl6-11-28.dsl.telepac.pt
On since Fri Feb 11 17:09 (EST) on ftp25520 (messages off)
    from bl6-11-28.dsl.telepac.pt
On since Fri Feb 11 17:09 (EST) on ftp19024 (messages off)
    from bl6-11-28.dsl.telepac.pt
On since Fri Feb 11 17:09 (EST) on ftp14084 (messages off)
    from bl6-11-28.dsl.telepac.pt
On since Fri Feb 11 17:09 (EST) on ftp19333 (messages off)
    from bl6-11-28.dsl.telepac.pt
On since Fri Feb 11 17:14 (EST) on ftp16240 (messages off)
    from bl6-11-28.dsl.telepac.pt
No Mail.
No Plan.
  
seems to be stuck somehow ... 
  
portugal has arrivedd
cross
response 719 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 21:42 UTC 2005

This response has been erased.

twenex
response 720 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 03:13 UTC 2005

What a crock.
cross
response 721 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 03:33 UTC 2005

This response has been erased.

gelinas
response 722 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 04:13 UTC 2005

An update on the modems:  I didn't get a chance to call SBC on Thursday or
Friday.  I did find 140 feet of cat5 cable in my basement.  I _couldn't_ find
my crimper, so I plan to buy a new one tomorrow, make a couple of cat5
telephone cords of appropriate length, and then get to Provide.Net to install
them.  The last step may not happen until Monday, though.
naftee
response 723 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 07:38 UTC 2005

whip me up a batch of pancakes, cross.
keesan
response 724 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 14:59 UTC 2005

Jim has a crimper you can borrow, also some of the round grey cable normally
used to run phone lines, whatever it happens to be.  I think his idea was to
make one line with something at the end to plug two phone cords into.  Or if
the modems are fairly close, perhaps he can make something that plugs directly
into the modems (soldered instead of plugged, better contact).
rcurl
response 725 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 20:15 UTC 2005

Splitters, which can be added to the end of an ordinary phone cord, are "dirt
cheap". It isn't worth the time to make custom cords. 
gracel
response 726 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 22:33 UTC 2005

It's telling me that my mailbox is 98% full, when I have just over
one megabyte of mail in it.  Furthermore, for the last several days
it has refused to let me delete anything (if I was able to read it
at all) because I was over quota in /temp.

Yesterday and today, also getting the incredible line noise that won't
let me dial in.

davel
response 727 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 23:34 UTC 2005

(To add to #726, as one who watched and tried to help:
(1) On dialin, the modem connects, but it gets what appears to be continuous,
    severe line noise, never a visible dialin prompt of any kind.  As with
    others who have reported this, the only difference on our end is the
    number being dialed.
(2) Grace was able to use elm to read her mail, but when she exited, if she'd
    made any changes (deleted any messages), it told her that her limit was
    exceeded on /tmp.  To add insult to injury, or maybe more injury, it left
    the original copy of her mailbox in /tmp, blocking future attempts to even
    run elm.  That limit needs to be at least doubled, I'm afraid.
(3) Her problems with elm were greatly exacerbated by the amount of spam Grex
    is letting in.  The mailbox keeps getting bigger & bigger, but the limit
    on /tmp won't let her delete any of it.
keesan
response 728 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 00:16 UTC 2005

Is it possible to hand-edit the mailbox?  Or maybe to download it first and
then read it and delete it at grex?  Please try my .forward and .procmailrc
as a filter - just the first 20 filters (and the first and last three lines
or so) of .procmailrc are needed and change keesan to davel or gracel.).  My
long filter catches 95% of spam but the first 20 parts should do about 90%.
A quarter or so of my spam is sent to one of about ten other grex addresses
in a batch mailing, most of the rest has java or images or a few key words
like medication.  
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