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scg
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response 70 of 140:
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Dec 17 16:56 UTC 2003 |
Bush, or Hussein?
We don't like Hussein because he kills people he doesn't like, so we want to
kill him. I certainly don't want the society I'm part of to function that
way. Unlike Hussein, I have no desire to kill people, even people I don't
like.
He's under our control now. He's not in a position to do any further damage.
We've certianly got enough other problems in Iraq, many of them his legacy
and many of them of our own making. We should work on fixing those, not on
some mindless vengence.
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twenex
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response 71 of 140:
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Dec 17 17:00 UTC 2003 |
Any death penalty should be imposed after a fair trial, according to
the laws of a free and democratic Iraq, or according to international
law, depending on the venue. I oppose the death penalty, but on moral
grounds, not because I give a damn what happens to that... animal.
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rcurl
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response 72 of 140:
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Dec 17 17:43 UTC 2003 |
Re #67: keep some balance, bru. I suspect that a lot of Iraqi families
would like to see Bush dead for all their innocent relatives that were
killed in the invasion and aftermath - vastly more, too, than the number
of US soliders that have been killed. Don't you have any concern for the
innocent Iraqi civilians?
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twenex
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response 73 of 140:
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Dec 17 17:56 UTC 2003 |
Bru and balance have nothing more in common than that the first
lettrer of each word is "b".
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micklpkl
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response 74 of 140:
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Dec 17 18:49 UTC 2003 |
resp:66 is quite offensive. I'm wondering how gull came to that conclusion.
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twenex
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response 75 of 140:
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Dec 17 19:39 UTC 2003 |
A joke, perhaps?
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happyboy
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response 76 of 140:
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Dec 17 19:45 UTC 2003 |
r74: i'm from there, originally. he's right.
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other
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response 77 of 140:
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Dec 17 20:44 UTC 2003 |
(Parts of Austin may be excluded from that generalization, though
the Statehouse is probably not among them.)
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jmsaul
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response 78 of 140:
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Dec 18 00:51 UTC 2003 |
Re #59: Reread what I wrote. Move your lips if you have to.
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russ
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response 79 of 140:
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Dec 18 03:25 UTC 2003 |
Re #47: Okay, I stand corrected. I try to listen to ATC but
I don't always have time to listen while it's on. (Just because
it has biases doesn't mean it isn't informative, so I follow it.)
The BBC's interviewers have rather extreme biases, as you can
tell by their combative questioning of certain people and
kid-glove handling of others.
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sj2
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response 80 of 140:
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Dec 18 05:24 UTC 2003 |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3329671.stm
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Iran 'owed billions for Saddam war'
The head of Iraq's Interim Governing Council says Iran should be paid
reparations for the war that Saddam Hussein waged against it in the
1980s. Abdul Aziz al-Hakim said further discussion was needed to
decide what if anything Iraq would pay itself.
Iran claims $100bn in reparations for the brutal eight-year war that
claimed about one million lives.
Mr Hakim's remarks may augur improving Iran-Iraq relations now Saddam
Hussein is in custody.
The prominent Iraqi is also the head of the Supreme Council for the
Islamic Revolution in Iraq (Sciri) the most important Shiite Muslim
party represented on the governing council.
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Initially, I thought that the BBC got Iran-Iraq mixed up. Curiouser
and curiouser! :)
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twenex
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response 81 of 140:
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Dec 18 10:51 UTC 2003 |
So, another blow for those who say the Arabs aren't even capable of
conciliation and making peace. yay and hooray.
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willcome
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response 82 of 140:
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Dec 18 11:45 UTC 2003 |
http://www.peoplecanchange.com/
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gull
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response 83 of 140:
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Dec 18 15:07 UTC 2003 |
Re resp:74: You don't remember the Presidential campaign? Bush, with a
big smirk on his face, saying "They're going to be put to death."
Or the interview where, when Bush was asked about Karla Faye Tucker's
clemency plea, he imitated her saying "Please don't kill me" in a
mocking voice? He obviously doesn't just favor the death penalty, he
finds it *funny*.
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micklpkl
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response 84 of 140:
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Dec 18 15:34 UTC 2003 |
Of course I remember the campaign, as well as the Shrubist
gubernatorial campaigns before that. I sorta resent you implying that I
must not, simply because I took offense to your blanket regional
stereotyping.
What I'm not understanding is how you arrived at the generalisation
that all Texans must find executions "entertaining" --- simply because
one man appears to find it "funny?"
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gull
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response 85 of 140:
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Dec 18 15:49 UTC 2003 |
Well, y'all voted for him...
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micklpkl
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response 86 of 140:
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Dec 18 15:51 UTC 2003 |
OK, then. I'm sorry for participating in this discussion.
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scg
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response 87 of 140:
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Dec 18 16:43 UTC 2003 |
Presumably, some Texans voted for him, and some didn't.
I've noticed in a lot of places that are known for having something special
about them that there seems to be a schism between the natives, who think
they shouldn't have to move to get what the rest of the country has, and those
who have moved there for the place's uniqueness, who want to keep it
different. I have no idea how that applies to Texas and its ideas of frontier
"justice," but I'll note that the Bushes are an old line rich Connecticut
family who decided to play at being Texans. Between the ranch and the obvious
joy over executions, our current President seems to have gotten more into it
than the rest of them.
My impression is also that those who move to Austin tend to be looking for
something significantly different than those who move to other parts of Texas.
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twenex
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response 88 of 140:
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Dec 18 16:48 UTC 2003 |
Whilst I wouldn't dream of implying that all Texans are bloodthirsty
revengeful fundamentalists, I oughtta point out that in a discussion
about Britains latest child-killer, in party, an esteemed Texan of our
acquaintance remarked that he's lucky he didn't commit the crime in
Texas, as "*we'd* all be sitting in bars cheering his execution"; or
words to that effect - note the use of the "we". Said esteemed Texan,
imho, is himself NOT a bloodthirsty revengeful fundamentalist.
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micklpkl
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response 89 of 140:
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Dec 18 17:00 UTC 2003 |
yes, and you claim that Americans don't have a sense of sarcasm.
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twenex
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response 90 of 140:
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Dec 18 17:07 UTC 2003 |
If I ever claimed that, I'm demonstrably wrong to claim it. Ken
(Josenhans) often intones that Americans (as a group) are
"irony-impaired". Anyone who suggested that would wrong, too. At the
very least, irony plays a big part in the hackish humour so evident on
Grex.
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gull
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response 91 of 140:
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Dec 18 17:12 UTC 2003 |
Full disclosure: There are two states I've decided to never live in;
Texas and California. I feel these two states are our national
laboratories for testing bad legislation. Texas performs this useful
function on the right, and California on the left.
Not coincidentally, California governments have a tendancy to act like a
Republican's caricature of liberalism -- they do the kinds of things
that make most of us roll our eyes but that Republicans imagine all
liberals want. Texas governments are the same way, but with the roles
reversed.
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twenex
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response 92 of 140:
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Dec 18 17:21 UTC 2003 |
Re: #90. Of course, any givben instance of my claimingthat might also
well have been a joke.
If the generalization has any truth, that truth should be stated more
to this effect: Americans and Brits have trouble understanding *each
other's* sense of sarcasm and irony. Brits often claim that germans
have no sense of humour, but knowledgeable Germanophiles claim that
they do, it's just that whjile they *appreciate* our sense of humour
(as opposed to finding it hilarious), we don't get theirs at all.
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micklpkl
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response 93 of 140:
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Dec 18 17:23 UTC 2003 |
resp:90 - Again, my apologies. That statement of mine that you dragged
in here from party was said completely tongue-in-cheek, with this
section of this item in mind.
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twenex
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response 94 of 140:
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Dec 18 17:34 UTC 2003 |
Lo se (I know), and no apology necessary.
Irony is my God.
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