response 70 of 75:

Mar 2 05:30 UTC 2013

A board-based CC would find it easier to solicit donations from its users
as there would be no conflict between the privileges of members vs users.
And there are a lot more users than members.

response 72 of 75:

Mar 9 03:08 UTC 2013

Resp:69 JEP hit the nail on the head with his flippant "Or shucks, make
it  fun to be a Boardmember somehow". Fundamentally CC the organizations
suffers  the same problem that the Free Masons, the OTO and other
initiatory,  hierarchical social organizations do. Namely, it served an
important social  function, but tied *what* it did too closely to *how*
it did. When *how* it  did was superceded by other, more accessible
solutions, it dug in the heels  and got wound up in the sanctity of
*how* it did, seeing that as fundamental  toits identity, preventing it
from maintaining the relevance in the public  mind of *what* it did. 

Let me be clear, I do not want to see either the Grex system, nor the CC
 organization fail. What I do want to see is an evaluation of what CC's
value  assertion is, and an honest analysis of how to achieve that
mission in the  most appropriate way. If we are about a place to hang
out and talk with  people, is the current system the right answer?
Perhaps the mission could be  better accomplished with a copy of PHPBB
on shared hosting. Is our mission  to provide a system for budding
computing professionals to get practice? If  so, should the system be a
jump-server for tiny, short-lived virtual  machines with a choice of
development tools and compilers? We will never  know the best way until
we answer the questions of *what* we do and *why* we  do. Mission
accomplishment is impossible without a clear knowledge of the 
(purported) mission. Calling it quits before it is over just makes you 
coward; smashing the system so others cannot achieve their mission makes
you  a coward, a sabateur and a bag of douche. 

So that I am not part of the problem of "non-participating" users,
please  have the treasurer contact me with the rate schedule to become a
member,  just so I can vote to keep this vessel afloat, until we can
determine the  proper course and get moving that direction again. 

And for those of you who took this as a personal insult, fuck you
sideways  for letting your personal feelings cause the organization to
slide from  relevance. 

response 74 of 75:

Mar 9 03:44 UTC 2013

Thanks. That was exactly the resource I needed. Hopefully the treasurer
will  check his email sometime soon. 

Maybe that is the answer. We are essentially an initiatory organization 
(users must ve validated and approved) and hierarchical (members are
above  validated users, who are above anonymous users, all of whom are
above that  piece of shit cross-dressing vandal who was crapping up the
forums from  hijacked wifi a few years back). But the barrier to each
level of the  hierarchy is trivial, and no mysteries are revealed. 

Perhaps we need passwords and secret handshakes and silly hats and dark 
rituals in gothic temples. 

Or beers.