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jaklumen
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response 7 of 102:
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Jan 14 09:05 UTC 2004 |
resp:5 I'd seen mention of the Wal-Mart music store on.. I think it
was ABC News. They were doing a story that was asking if
the 'legitimate' downloading services were really catching on.
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twinkie
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response 8 of 102:
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Jan 14 15:12 UTC 2004 |
re: 7 It seems to be online now, though the pricing isn't across the board
for albums, it is a bit less expensive than iTunes:
http://musicdownloads.walmart.com/catalog/servlet/MainServlet
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albaugh
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response 9 of 102:
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Jan 14 17:08 UTC 2004 |
Heard on the radio this morning: Last year music industry sales dropped only
1%, but music sales in the Country genre dropped 10%.
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gull
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response 10 of 102:
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Jan 15 02:28 UTC 2004 |
I haven't bought any music online yet. To be honest, I got most of the
ear candy stuff I wanted before I got rid of my downloading programs.
Bands that I actually like more than two songs by I usually consider
worth going to the effort of buying a CD.
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krj
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response 11 of 102:
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Jan 16 20:16 UTC 2004 |
Oh, there are such a bundle of news reports... I'll try to get a few
in as time permits.
Hewlett-Packard chief executive Carly Fiorina gave a major speech at the
Consumer Electronic Show in which she attacked the copying and sharing
of copyrighted materials and pledged that HP's products would work to
stop this.
>> "Just because we can steal music doesn't mean we should," Fiorina
said. "It is illegal. It is wrong, and there are things we can do as a
technology company to help." <<
"HP declares war on sharing culture"
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/34804.html
The Register's journalism always has a slightly yellow tinge, but this story
appears in many other major sources.
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Many new music products involve dual-format presentations of the same songs.
Common anti-copying CD technologies include both a "red book" CD Audio
program for standard CD players, coupled with a Windows Media set of files
for computer use. There's also the attempt to encourage consumers
to move to the Super Audio CD technology by manufacturing discs
which include both SACD and standard CD audio versions of the same tracks,
at different layers on the physical disc.
The music publishers, who represent the songwriters, complain that they
are entitled to two payments of the mechanical, per-copy royalties when
such products are sold, one payment for each version of a recording
on a dual-format product. The publishers also want back payments for
every such recording sold, which could amount to a large pile of money.
"Royalty Problems Assail Labels"
http://p2pnet.net/story/551
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twinkie
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response 12 of 102:
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Jan 16 22:07 UTC 2004 |
It's pretty funny that Carly would stand so steadfast against music piracy,
just after HP announced that they've teamed with Apple to sell HP-branded
iPods.
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tod
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response 13 of 102:
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Jan 16 23:30 UTC 2004 |
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krj
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response 14 of 102:
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Jan 18 18:35 UTC 2004 |
Richard pointed me to this:
New York Post runs a non-news story about the non-sale of Tower
Records. The article says Tower is running out of time to find a
buyer. They are already months beyond the original deadline set
by their creditors.
Sun Capital Partners is reported to still be interested "in
the Tower name;" that phrasing sounds like they aren't interested in
the ongoing business any more, but it could just be my pessimistic
speculation.
http://www.nypost.com/business/15750.htm
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willcome
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response 15 of 102:
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Jan 18 19:05 UTC 2004 |
It's not news.
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krj
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response 16 of 102:
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Jan 18 20:01 UTC 2004 |
Dan Gillmor sends a column from the Consumer Electronics Show.
He amplifies on the coverage of HP's pledge to tie down their customers,
arguing that this ideology is now sweeping the industry which was
previously built on empowering users.
"Companies tossing aside consumers' freedoms"
http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/7739841.htm
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>> "Another sign of where we're heading came during a panel I moderated
at CES. The speakers were top executives from America's cable and
satellite TV companies, and the topic was high-definition TV.
"They didn't disagree when I suggested that customers' rights would
be sharply limited when the transition to HDTV takes place. We will be
able to time-shift programming (record it to watch later), watch it on
different devices, or watch more than once only if the copyright
holder says we can." <<
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gull
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response 17 of 102:
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Jan 18 22:13 UTC 2004 |
I wonder how restrictive copyright holders will want to be? It seems
like disallowing time-shifting could really cut down on viewership, and
advertisers wouldn't like that.
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mcnally
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response 18 of 102:
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Jan 18 23:43 UTC 2004 |
But allowing time-shifting allows the viewers to use those pesky
recording devices (VCRs & PVRs) which allow them to skip the
commercials and advertisers don't like THAT.
Plus allowing people to make their own digital recordings might
affect the ever more lucrative DVD market or television series.
Care to guess how many DVD sets of the Sopranos HBO has sold at
$60 a pop?
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twinkie
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response 19 of 102:
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Jan 19 04:56 UTC 2004 |
re: 18 - Advertisers really don't like that at all. It's had some recent
coverage in Wired, and other publications.
I don't think it really carries over to DVD's, though. They generally have
added value, with outtakes, commentary, deleted scenes, "lost" episodes, etc.
Consider HBO's rival Showtime, and their sales of Queer as Folk box sets.
Showtime embeds TiVo smart tags on their commercials, to make it even easier
for people to record their programming.
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gull
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response 20 of 102:
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Jan 19 14:17 UTC 2004 |
Interesting but admittedly only marginally-related item that came up on
Bugtraq recently:
http://www.sanmateocountytimes.com/Stories/0,1413,87~11271~1882929,00.html
According to the article, Adobe Photoshop CS contains a routine that
recognizes when you're trying to open an image of a piece of currency
(U.S. dollar bill, etc.) and blocks you. Discussion on Bugtraq reveals
that some HP printer drivers contain code to stop you from printing
currency images, as well.
The anti-currency-copying technology was apparently designed by a
consortium of central banks. In the EU, there's a proposal to make this
mandatory.
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twinkie
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response 21 of 102:
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Jan 20 01:55 UTC 2004 |
re: 20 Surprisingly, Photoshop CS also blocks images that have a substantial
percentage of US currency's color scheme (both old and new). Though some
workarounds have been established, it's rather irritating.
Though I don't envision it ever becoming a problem for what I tend to use
Photoshop for, I'm disappointed that such flawed technology is built in to
a $649 software application and can't be turned off.
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mcnally
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response 22 of 102:
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Jan 20 03:34 UTC 2004 |
Agreed.. And though it's not a replacement for Photoshop, you can always
use Gimp for your counterfeiting projects..
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bhoward
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response 23 of 102:
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Jan 20 07:30 UTC 2004 |
Open source to the rescue, once again :-)
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remmers
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response 24 of 102:
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Jan 20 12:53 UTC 2004 |
Don't be too blase'. Open source is what they might try to regulate
next.
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bhoward
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response 25 of 102:
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Jan 20 13:54 UTC 2004 |
Not blasé so much as reasonably optimistic that any attempted regulation
would prove quite difficult to implement, let alone enforce.
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twinkie
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response 26 of 102:
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Jan 20 14:40 UTC 2004 |
It would be impossible to regulate and keep open source, unless they created
some magical encrypted libs that people would figure out how to decrypt (or
just remove before compilation).
While GIMP is nice for the price, it's not Photoshop. It's also less than
functional on OS X.
Though, it seems to be "getting there" slowly. I'd love to not pay $649 for
Photoshop.
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bhoward
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response 27 of 102:
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Jan 20 14:43 UTC 2004 |
Go to Hong Kong. USD5.00 has pretty good software purchasing
power in them there parts.
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ryan
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response 28 of 102:
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Jan 20 17:22 UTC 2004 |
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gull
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response 29 of 102:
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Jan 20 19:27 UTC 2004 |
Paint Shop Pro is pretty good, though it too is "not quite Photoshop,
but getting there." It's a bit ahead of GIMP on most platforms. It's
much, much cheaper than Photoshop.
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ryan
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response 30 of 102:
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Jan 20 20:15 UTC 2004 |
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orinoco
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response 31 of 102:
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Jan 20 21:37 UTC 2004 |
Oh, hell yes. I hadn't realized just how painful bad interface design could
be until I started trying to learn to use the GIMP.
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