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Grex > Music3 > #145: Apple presents iTunes - online music store |  |
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jaklumen
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response 7 of 81:
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Apr 30 01:01 UTC 2003 |
I read the AP article, and I seem to remember reading that a Windows
site would be coming out sometime soon.
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ea
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response 8 of 81:
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Apr 30 21:44 UTC 2003 |
Friends of mine that are mac addicts report that there will be a version
of iTunes available on a PC platform by the end of the year, and that it
will support the new "buy on demand" music system.
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jazz
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response 9 of 81:
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May 1 05:31 UTC 2003 |
I've yet to see anyone make money on the business model of selling
something that's currently free but is being strongarmed legally.
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pvn
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response 10 of 81:
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May 1 08:50 UTC 2003 |
Not if you are the vendor. But in this case Apple may have a chance as
they are more like a stock broker. They don't actually own the product
they are facilitating the purchase of. I do hope they got money up
front from the music industry though.
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krj
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May 1 18:44 UTC 2003 |
((( Summer Agora #125 linked as Music #145 )))
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orinoco
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May 1 19:34 UTC 2003 |
Back before the web was universal, people made money selling shareware
compilations. The idea seemed to be that going and getting each piece of
software was just annoying enough that people would be willing to pay a few
bucks to get them all at once on a disk. Given how flaky and unreliable the
file sharing services I've tried have been, I might be willing to pay to
download a good clean copy of a song from a reliable source. Similar idea,
I guess -- you're paying for convenience, not for the product itself.
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pvn
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May 2 04:59 UTC 2003 |
So there is hope yet, the convenience factor (and not having to spend
time downloading a file only to listen to madonna saying "what the f*ck
do you think you are doing"...(she's bright, that one))
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gull
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May 2 14:03 UTC 2003 |
I don't think I'd ever use the Apple service because of the DRM stuff
that's tacked on. If I can't burn a music file to a CD or load it on my
MP3 player, it's not much good to me.
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mynxcat
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response 15 of 81:
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May 2 14:04 UTC 2003 |
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mcnally
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response 16 of 81:
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May 2 18:28 UTC 2003 |
re #14: According to all the news stories I've read on the iTunes store,
you *can* burn the downloads to audio CD, with the only mentioned
restriction being that you cannot burn more than ten copies of the same
playlist.
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krj
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May 2 19:03 UTC 2003 |
... which is an odd restriction, since one could burn one copy
of the CD from the playlist and then make copies from that...
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mcnally
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response 18 of 81:
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May 2 23:44 UTC 2003 |
My guess is that it's a token concession to DRM but that Apple knew that
anything more restrictive would never fly with consumers..
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sj2
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response 19 of 81:
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May 3 15:56 UTC 2003 |
When I started buying western music about ten years back, a cassette
used to cost Rs.40 or approx 80 cents. Yesterday, when I again bought a
few, it cost me almost $5 each. Approximately, a whopping 600% jump!!!!
What else has gone up by 600% in the last ten years?? Certainly not the
quality of music. IMHO, at 99cents a song, it is still a rip-off.
Maybe a group of artists will start to sell music online at lower
rates??
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mvpel
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response 20 of 81:
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May 4 18:14 UTC 2003 |
Caren and I just got an iPod, and it's a brilliant little piece of technology.
It frankly boggles my mind having gone from a PET computer with 16,384
precious bytes of memory back in fifth grade up to a compact little music
machine that fits in the palm of your hand with room for 16,106,127,360 bytes
of data.
We signed up for the service yesterday, and downloaded a dozen songs by half
a dozen different artists to replace a batch of six CDs that were lost when
we were travelling. Simply brilliant - spending $12 and getting exactly what
we wanted instead of nearly $100 on replacement CDs.
If the RIAA had spent their money on innovation instead of lawyers and
software sabotage, they'd have come out with this service three years ago.
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mary
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May 5 12:45 UTC 2003 |
I haven't owned anything from the Beetles since the days
of vinyl. But today I'm going to make my own "Best of"
album at 99c a song.
I don't expect I'll use the service a whole lot but,
if it works, it will be nice to have available.
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mynxcat
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response 22 of 81:
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May 5 14:04 UTC 2003 |
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sj2
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response 23 of 81:
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May 6 06:26 UTC 2003 |
Sorry, I am talking about here in Oman. A CD costs RO 5.500 and a
cassette costs RO 1.800
An Omani Rial is about $2.58. Thats $4.64
In India, the last I bought cassettes they were Rs125-Rs140. But that
was about two years back. Sony has this special Indian edition CDs that
cost only Rs250, thats about $5. Rest cost Rs.650, that is about $13.
Comparitively, books are sold at 1/5th to 1/10th the price in India
than what they are sold for in the US. Special asian or Indian edition
books.
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mynxcat
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May 6 14:43 UTC 2003 |
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anderyn
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response 25 of 81:
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May 6 17:17 UTC 2003 |
Why are books/cds/etc. more cheap in India? That seems odd to me.
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mynxcat
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response 26 of 81:
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May 6 18:00 UTC 2003 |
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sj2
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response 27 of 81:
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May 7 07:15 UTC 2003 |
I don't think it has anything to do with manufacturing costs or
royalties. Its just plain marketing. If you sold a technical text book
for $20 in India almost none of the students would buy it. It would end
up getting photcopied and pirated. Now if you sold it for say $2-$4,
all students will buy a copy (as they do).
You have to remember that in volumes the Indian market for technical
text books must be bigger than that of US+UK+other-English-speaking-
countries. So its a BIG market and something that the publishers can't
simply ignore. With more than 250 universities, 1,500 research
institutions and 10,428 higher-education institutes, India churns out
200,000 engineering graduates and another 300,000 technically trained
graduates every year.
The local authors have local publishers and can sell a book at $2-$4,
so to compete with them the foreign publishers must sell at similar
prices. Low volume books are imported and sell at US prices for example
medical textbooks. Heh, so lots of medical students buy pirated books.
I wish the music publisher's take a hint from the book publishers and
do more like what Sony is doing.
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gull
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response 28 of 81:
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May 7 13:57 UTC 2003 |
It's simple economics. If the population makes less money, you have to
price your goods lower if you want to sell them.
For a simple, local example, compare the cost of gas at the Meijer on
Ann Arbor-Saline Road to the cost of gas at the one on Carpenter. ;)
Last I checked it was seven cents cheaper per gallon on Carpenter Road.
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keesan
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response 29 of 81:
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May 7 14:12 UTC 2003 |
So if they sell as tape for $5, everyone will make copies for their friends.
If they sold it cheaper, people might buy originals.
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mynxcat
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response 30 of 81:
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May 7 15:03 UTC 2003 |
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sj2
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response 31 of 81:
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May 7 15:57 UTC 2003 |
Yeah. But you can visit India and buy those books and read them in the
US. My sis bought Rs. 50K of books on her first visit to India after
she went to study in the US. Thats ... ummm ... $1000. But I guess the
US value of those books would be anywhere between US $5k-$10k.
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