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Grex > Coop9 > #9: A Scheme to Partition Grex |  |
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janc
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response 69 of 121:
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Nov 28 18:05 UTC 1996 |
About "Edna": There were four books in the dungeon. They appear to be from
the UM graduate library. One is about women in medieval history, two are
collections of stories by Edna O'Brian, and one is about Edna O'Brian. Nobody
has the faintest idea how they got there, but they are useful for proping up
various computer components. We moved them with everything else to the
pumpkin. We should return them to the library, but we are used to them and
would miss them if they weren't there any more.
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nephi
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response 70 of 121:
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Nov 29 03:57 UTC 1996 |
I really like the "egrex" name. I couldn't think of anything
"cooler".
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nestene
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response 71 of 121:
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Nov 29 13:07 UTC 1996 |
<Ahem>
Would it be possible to set up some very simple utility that would allow
any user of <censored> (the machine) to transfer a file to their directory
on grex? Something like:
grexit okbomb.txt ~/etc
to send okbomb.txt to my etc directory, perhaps with a default of ~ for
the target?
I think I have a few worthless books lying around my library that I could
donate to an "Edna O'Brien Repatriation Drive".
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janc
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response 72 of 121:
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Nov 29 15:56 UTC 1996 |
I think if we set things up the way Steve/Rob suggested, there would be
no particularly big problem with doing that. The commands rcp and scp already
exist and come pretty close to that functionality.
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dang
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response 73 of 121:
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Nov 29 18:21 UTC 1996 |
To give a direct answer, yes. It would not only be possible, but quite easy.
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nestene
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response 74 of 121:
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Nov 30 14:02 UTC 1996 |
Good. I knew I'd probably be able to figure something out, but I was
hoping there'd be something Catriona could use.
(Hey, Catriona, nestene's pickin'' on you!) :-)
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kerouac
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response 75 of 121:
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Nov 30 20:04 UTC 1996 |
but what if val or blondval *want* it named "val" or 'valerie', I dont
think one valerie owns the rights to the name
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ajax
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response 76 of 121:
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Dec 1 07:10 UTC 1996 |
Perhaps we could auction off the naming rights as a fundraiser? :-)
The reason I like "mail" is that it's very easy to remember or guess.
Having used about a half dozen different ISPs over the last year, I
appreciate it when news servers are named "news," and mail servers are
named "mail." (Prepended to the ISP's domain name, of course, like
mail.ic.net). While Grex isn't an ISP, there are still times when
people will want to type in the mail server name, and I think "mail"
is the easiest name to remember or guess.
For machines like our router or terminal server, where people outside
staff rarely type the names, I have no strong naming preferences.
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nephi
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response 77 of 121:
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Dec 1 07:41 UTC 1996 |
I agree with Rob above.
I think that we can give it a "cool" "proper" name, like egrex
or gridlock, or whatever, and then alias it to any number of
other, more memorable names, including mail. I'm pretty sure
that there's no oposition to this sentiment, unless Kerouac has
seen this.
As an aside, accessU.S. has all sorts of names for our mail
server -- mtvernon1, mail, smtp, pop, mailhost, and so on . . .
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remmers
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response 78 of 121:
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Dec 2 11:48 UTC 1996 |
Re #75: Hey, I think all users should have equal naming rights.
A request by someone named Valerie to name it The Valerie should
receive the same weight as someone named Richard to call it The
Dick.
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robh
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response 79 of 121:
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Dec 2 12:51 UTC 1996 |
So has anyone named Valerie actually indicated that they like the idea?
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dang
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response 80 of 121:
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Dec 2 13:16 UTC 1996 |
Not that I know of.
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remmers
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response 81 of 121:
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Dec 2 16:22 UTC 1996 |
I request that it be named The John.
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orinoco
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response 82 of 121:
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Dec 2 23:04 UTC 1996 |
What about 'Grail'? For those who want a cool name, for those who want to
include the word 'mail', and for those who want some reference to the word
'grex'...
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kerouac
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response 83 of 121:
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Dec 2 23:35 UTC 1996 |
how bout "altgrex"? or "grex2" or "grexmail"?
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krj
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response 84 of 121:
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Dec 3 05:30 UTC 1996 |
I like calling it The John. It's going to be so slow, people will
spend lots of time in it, reading.
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omni
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response 85 of 121:
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Dec 3 19:30 UTC 1996 |
looking for a....a...GRail? I like the sound of it.
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janc
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response 86 of 121:
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Dec 4 00:17 UTC 1996 |
Well, the naming issues are really pretty moot unless we decide that we
actually want to do something like this.
The negatives I see right now are:
- Some inconvenience to people who use both mail and bbs, since it is
may be harder to switch between reading mail and reading bbs or party.
Some of this may be mitigated with improving software.
- A considerable increase in the complexity of the system (two computers,
two routers, etc.) which will make system administration more difficult.
- Less than full utilization of our link bandwidth. We are keeping the
conferencing side fast by not letting mail saturate the link. In
otherwords, we are deliberately keeping some bandwidth idle most of the
time.
- Reduction of the likelihood that mail users will stumble into the
conferences. This may be mitigated by suitable design.
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orinoco
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response 87 of 121:
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Dec 4 02:48 UTC 1996 |
Mentioning the conferences frequently in the mail machine might help that last
one.
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popcorn
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response 88 of 121:
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Dec 4 09:48 UTC 1996 |
(Re the Edna books: Actually, we do know how they got into the Dungeon. The
person who took them out of the library says that he's going to return them
eventually. He also says that the library's computers are sufficiently
confused that the library does not realize that these books are missing.)
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janc
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response 89 of 121:
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Dec 4 18:23 UTC 1996 |
One other disadvantage:
- Twice as many computers cost twice as much electricity. This might
well add $60 or so to our monthly electric bill.
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orinoco
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response 90 of 121:
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Dec 9 02:07 UTC 1996 |
Although making the conferences more worthwhile might net us a few more
members...<says the chronic non-member>
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tsty
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response 91 of 121:
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Dec 9 06:01 UTC 1996 |
cast a vote for tsty and your membership can be established
by using your mastercard of visa --- and you will be cronic no longer.
set shamelesspoliticalplug=off
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popcorn
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response 92 of 121:
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Dec 9 08:17 UTC 1996 |
TS, I am trying to figure out how you can promise that. The whole board
would have to approve of accepting credit cards; it's not a decision that any
one board member could make for Grex single handedly. Also, there are issues
about it that would need to be worked out here in the co-op conference.
For example, if Visa charges 2% (a number I made up) of the cost of each
transaction, would people have to pay 2% extra to buy a membership with a
credit card? Or would Grex absorb the loss? I'm not sure which of those
options would be right for Grex, or maybe something else, but I'd think
it would have to be discussed here in co-op, first, where all Grex users
can have input into the decision.
Also, what does accepting credit cards have to do with partitioning Grex?
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e4808mc
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response 93 of 121:
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Dec 9 18:50 UTC 1996 |
Visa and Mastercard have explicit regulations that you cannot charge different
prices to people who use their credit cards. Nor can you give "cash
discounts" to people who pay by cash. If you sign a credit card agreement,
the charge (3% I think) comes out of your overhead, ie Grex absorbs the loss.
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