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krj
response 69 of 79: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 23:45 UTC 2004

I see two problems with the concept of an endorsement threshhold.
 
First, an endorsement threshhold does little to address my prime
concern, that an election settle an issue, at least for a good 
period of time.  Jamie's proposal got about 20% support from the 
membership, and that level of support would (hypothetically) allow
the proposal be brought up again, again again, constantly.
 
Second, Grex has in the past been very proud that it allows any
single member to bring an issue to a vote, and I'm not enthusiastic
about moving away from that. 
 
Feel free to try to convince me.
tod
response 70 of 79: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 00:04 UTC 2004

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aruba
response 71 of 79: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 01:12 UTC 2004

Ken - it sounds to me like a lot of the people who voted for Jamie's
proposal the first time don't want it brought to a vote the second time.  So
I think your first objection will take care of itself.  If we had a group of
9 or more members who not only disagreed with policy but also wanted to be
relentless about it, then yeah, we'd vote on the same thing over and over
again.  I suppose if that happens, we can try something else.
polygon
response 72 of 79: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 03:09 UTC 2004

Most systems of parliamentary rules require that a motion at least be
seconded before being voted on.

I don't see a problem with requiring some minimal show of support before
bringing an issue to a membership vote.
gull
response 73 of 79: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 04:10 UTC 2004

Re resp:69: I think the odds of it getting endorsed would fall rapidly 
with each iteration, as people lost interest.  Under the current system, 
this doesn't matter; even if his proposal gets zero votes next time he 
puts it to a vote, he can still keep forcing it to a vote over and over.

I would have endorsed both jp2 and jep's original proposals.  I would 
not endorse jp2's second attempt.
cmcgee
response 74 of 79: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 13:27 UTC 2004

The anonymous web reading votes were much closer to 50-50 to start.  The
revotes were, IIRC, tweaks that finally made the policy acceptable to a
majority of members.  
janc
response 75 of 79: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 01:45 UTC 2004

Yes.
krj
response 76 of 79: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 05:16 UTC 2004

I'm inclined to let this proposal die and defer to remmers' item:122.
naftee
response 77 of 79: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 16:25 UTC 2004

Let that proposal die, and GreX will too.
bru
response 78 of 79: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 23:36 UTC 2004

let it die.
jesuit
response 79 of 79: Mark Unseen   May 17 02:14 UTC 2006

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